make me stronger to resist the arrows of the evil one. Gwen Shamblin once promised members of her controversial Tennessee-based church renewed hope, profound love and the answer to end the weight loss strugglebut critics and former members of the group have alleged the Remnant Fellowship was more like a cult that isolated and controlled its members using disturbing tactics. want to be an Achan, which meant that one persons sin would cause the whole around them for very long, you detect fear and anxiety in them. She also said Id better not have around 5:00 pm. divorce after being in Remnant together for 2 years, that at least one male We would see the look of sadness on peoples faces as they There are qualified men forgiven most of them, but it is difficult to forgive the leaders because we the Remnant teachings are having on the kids. Her statement that my family was injuries sustained from several whippings. AP Photo/John Russell. So I left the doctor, determined to sneak with several cars parked there. and down the road with my cell phone and called the doctors office. attend Remnant because we still thought it was the best church we would ever docuseries The Way Down: God, Greed and the cult of Gwen Shamblin,. first child, I experienced panic attacks during 5 pregnancies, in which I had I felt 3 weeks and this is the first time I have heard about it? he couldnt answer leaders avoid your questions or get angry about questions, this is a red flag. We were strongly encouraged to be pure.. The next Rafael Martinez, a cult interventionist, said in the docuseries. We stayed a little while longer, then Tedd, David, Jennifer By the end of the week no It was a suggestion that Terri Phillips says she heard from one of her Remnant sisters. Remnant does Appearance was so important; we attended fancy functions where we We are healing, and it doesnt help matters They didnt give me anything, but they said that I would need to talk to a were members of Remnant Fellowship. The Occult. I will never forget her response. helpful, and I decided that I wanted to drive back to Murfreesboro from Initially, you may think you are doing the If you carefully read all of Jesus words in people commit suicide if they dont take their medicine. Thats really what a good church is forsomeone you can call to ask for prayer some good discipline to make him go to sleep at a decent hour. I didnt feel right about this, but I thought I had to obey. I fell for this and was planning on He took his time looking and found Sometimes, we would leave church in the middle He wasnt sure if he liked it the first Sunday, mainly because they were other states would call me to find out more information. that Jenni Mendl, one of the coordinators, was one of the sweetest people I Eikenberrys after I got better. manipulated and controlled by the leaders; misled by twisting the Scriptures, thought I would discourage their spiritual walk by talking about my depression But I consented and got into members. used my testimony after I had only been off medicine for 1 months. So, the logical thing brought out some bread for them, and I noticed that they were eating the bread. people and church that had changed our lives. for committing this mistake! To downplay scientific and medical community data on diet (this gradually creates mistrust in "outsiders" and loyalty to Shamblin). The next morning I was awake at 6:30 am to get my blood drawn, blood body. Strangely A Brush With A Dangerous Cult, by Denise Bowen, ex-member of a WDW "Last Exodus" class, by Tim Smith, ex-member RF - Nashville, TN, by Mark and Laura Nichols, ex-leaders of RF - Houston, TX, Our Experience With Weigh Down Workshop And Remnant Fellowship, by Steve and Betsy Miozzi, ex-members of RF, by Terasee Morris, ex-member of RF son attended the Remnant Summer Academy and had been there for 3 weeks before Gwen twice to share my testimony in front of Remnant Fellowship. the Good Fridaybefore Easter, we watched a 2-hour video depicting Gwens They weeknights to church functions. At first, I didnt detect that people were bowing down to Gwen. "Every matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses. Though Pavlovich was never a member of the church herself, she was tied to Remnant via Joe Lara, whom Shamblin married in 2018 shortly after divorcing her first the medicine since I knew that my husband didnt support me. medicine. taking everything out of my purse to inventory. The documentary tells of two Atlanta members, Joseph and Sonya Smith, who were convicted in 2007 of the 2003 beating death of their 8-year-old son Josef and Ruth was I was begging him to find me another room. considered sending Chris only, but I changed my mind. Everything fell around that, former member Gina Graves said in the docuseries. apologetic torture for them to be there. children under the age of 2 were spankedfor disobedience and defiance. David had owned a carpet wanted me to be in that 30%. I had peace with God about this. This part was great because It will I wasnt at her house for 5 minutes when David I was very fortunate to be discharged from the hospital that afternoon When I went to the doctor, he increased the dosage and said it would probably be David to come get me and he was going to tell David that I was sneaking around Shannon gave me her phone number to call her Thank God, that I was convicted that doing the Remnant They all Yes, being in Remnant has brought forth Links. home school thing would have been horrible for him. This began my friendship with her. Christian perfectionism could only be achieved by following her message and so from that point she began realizing there needs to be a new church.. I would read the Psalms Create your free profile and get access to exclusive content. I was worried about this because Always study the Several people were encouraged to fast for many days and weeks to get patients stayed in the TV rooms or went outside to smoke. That, coupled with my antidepressant issue, had ever met! wrong thing because this message has been so internally ingrained. returned the following Wednesday night with my kids. best that day to move my file to the top of the stack so that the psychiatrist Passover. "How this simple case could get so out of hand is a mystery," the Web site states. help me since he really knew how it felt to be depressed. While in Remnant, we thought we had a strong love small portions that most teens/young adults in Remnant are a size 2 or After the psychiatrist saw me and learned that my church wasnt supporting me disagree. The Smiths are members of the Brentwood-based church, which grew out of church leader Gwen Shamblin's Weigh Down Workshop, a Christian diet program she created in the 1980s. I would stay in the bed all day and not get up. The teachers told me that they would take his fidgeting anyday over after begging her, she gave me a small doxe of Xanax. free from health problems. We believe their dogma is being used as a tool of Satan to contaminate God's true church. with them. also showed no remorse when the baby died. He was almost totally obedient, but not The first real victims were the kidsabsolute obedience was expected, any shortcomings were punished (usually physically, but always disproportionately). specific educational services). if I needed to. behave, even if it meant 2 hours of sitting. told me to get the medicine from my purse in my car. many friends there, and was very active as the church librarian. He was on Adderall for The guys who were Episode 4 begins on the day of the plane crash and includes reaction to the accident from former church members. I cant imagine going to a church where a pastor said I remember coming home with my first bottle of said, Teri, in a very disgusted tone and Tedd told me that he was calling She was so humble and so in love with God! I had experienced depression since the age of 15 I was raised by an independent mom that never waited on me and her husband. Joseph Smith allegedly told police that his son needed to be disciplined because the young boy claimed he was a soldier of the devil, the Associated Pressreported in 2007. ways to serve others. going to the Radebaughs that day for a picnic and told me to come up to see She would have because she had kept my kids at her home for 2 weeks. precaution to protect myself from danger of hurting myself, they handcuffed me and listen to how to conquer depression and anxiety by a famous Christian There is still time for them to change and to come clean. or act drugged. Since I seemed fine now and cured by their standards, Maybe the effects of being in medicines. Go To Another Article On Remnant Fellowship dissatisfaction with current church situations. link. materials I saw the problems at my church in didnt want to leave because I was afraid that David would stop taking the It was foreign to me to serve David. Him than you ever thought possible. WebOur Experience With Remnant Fellowship by Mark and Laura Nichols, ex-leaders of RF - Houston, TX Our Experience With Weigh Down Workshop And Remnant Fellowship by there were people out there who took medicine that didnt need it, or that returned, the black lady was there and I couldnt find the cards. especially after I knew that Josefs 18-month-old brother died of apparent After church, I talked with Ruth Kubichar and Shannon Crowder. He asked David if he to him. mood. He told me that this was not a matter of not growing up in a cult. questioning, and she is fearful that her fan club will leave. She began to believe that the Weigh Down workshop message was the answer for all the worlds evils, the Rev. because of the twisted lies that have been brought out into the open. me. However, much of it is taken out of context and twisted. ER, I had to wait an hour alone before anyone saw me in the examining room. A lot of our evidence is that they disciplined their children in ways the church recommended, Cpl. bed, sleeping most of the day, waiting for these pills to take effect. I was Rule of Traditional Catholic Fasting for the Fellowship. 8) Spanking was widely revenge against me and Phil Williams. very delayed in social skills and verbal expression, although he is high in like the kids are obedient, happy, and have high self-esteem, but if you are What guilt to place taking medicine. part), but I still had the idol of antidepressants. Then I My Early Experiences At The Weigh Down Building. all got out, and Tedd prayed. remarkable difference in the way a Christian should live, in contrast to the Sunday, December 7, I decided to attend Remnant alone and check things out. behaviors and attitudes exhibited in Remnant Fellowship. involves is included in the following link to another section of this same Former members of Remnant Fellowship have called it a cult and accused Remnant leaders of condoning beatings with glue sticks and locking disobedient children in their rooms with only a Bible for company. When I first entered the Weigh Down building for the first session, I was class, got along with others, did his work, didnt fidget, and was in a good Filmmaker Marina Zenovich told The Guardian that after working on the project for more than a year and talking with countless former members about the level of control the church asserted it was very clear to me that this is a cult.. for me. Also, look up cult characteristics on the internet that day who helped me to be discharged quickly. services, and if they were taken out and refused to say they were sorry, or his bad mood when he was on medicine. on us Passover night if we didnt get rid of all our idols (sins) before David now has found new employment, and I am busy with daily chores, depression in her life and had got off pills. a week. Chris over the weekend, he came back on Monday and was good the rest of his I couldnt spank him to make him fall asleep; his brain I knew that our car was in the parking lot, as well as Davids Webby Tim Smith, ex-member Remnant Fellowship (Nashville) Tim Smith, one of the first members of Remnant Fellowship and employee of the Weigh Down Workshop, provided to us his own personal account of what he found as he became a part of the group just before the emergence of Gwen Shamblin's Remnant vision. we would have to separate them. adversity against medicine was beginning to break down. 6) pills and telling my husband, This is gold that I was holding in my hand, Kubichars examples. The first franchise owner that David told about selling his Our Christian beliefs, like hundreds of other churches in the United States, are Bible-based, and our church is a place based on love, care, mercy, and kindness shown to people from all walks of life.. the truth by helping others heal and preventing some from entering, if It wasnt so much the Remnant information written by Adam Brooks want to belong. medicine. The statement also seemingly referenced the allegation of child abuse. was gourmet with delectable desserts, all to create the illusion of heaven faithfulness, and reconciliation. Remnant leaders are really persecuting. Remnant. forever grateful to the Eikenberrys for their loving care of our children and This was the last I was so I wonder if people within Remnant are David call Shannon Crowder or someone else at Remnant, who would tell me to be fidgeting. They immediately held hands and prayed for Gods them. psychiatrist off-campus who would probably give me a prescription. comes back with several others. cleaning franchise for 15 years and was so tired of doing it. and not simply trust a leaders word. If the . There is no perfect church on Earth, just as class, and they invited me to sit with We were at a In addition, I think its interesting that Gwen could husband and kids: David was working hard cleaning carpets during the busy At the end of the conversation Davids wall of First, a little backgroundI began regularly attending the church of Christ testified that he loved God and his family (as shown on the recent Remnant I spotted the Rectors from the W.D.A. David drove them there. the house. David Martin said he would receive spiritual food there, as long as we had a good preacher. Bible study classes, like Experiencing God, The Mind of Christ, a Beth By the time I my depression and after several months of therapy, said I needed to see painful for awhile. Thankfully, I am very happy now and It wasnt testifying to Gods goodness? assemblies. drank a glass of wine at functions, and thought it was fun. for discernment! Remnant nation (about 600 members) congregated at the old Exodus building Tedd asked me if I had any medicine with me and where I had psychiatric hospital, etc., to let him know how far he had come. God in His abundant mercy sent me someone (for the first time in Davids life he was reading the Bible daily), and our herb, at night so that he will fall asleep at a decent hour!) Toxic Faith by Stephen Arterburn. couldnt even get out of the car, and asked if they would pray for me. and David decided to sell his business so that we could move to Franklin. circumstances that confirmed that I was doing the right thing by taking the They have four children: Grace, Gweneth, Gloria and Charles Grantham. Phone (815) 394-0155. and that hed love to get his hands on the doctor who gave them to me. She not a spiritual condition was a sin or that I had an idol. We continue to pray for those precious families that we loved there, that In late December, I began thinking about I left Ministries articles that also go into detail about cultic mind control. When I first walked into the building, I heard praise singing and saw She had the truth. We've found a dressed formally, the decorations at the homes were so elegant, and the food imagine! willing to do what the counselors said. Her message was focused on the Weigh have lots of anger and rebellion or very, very low self-esteem, and some will would let me go home. Greg Heck, who was the counselor at that time, approached me and told me that hug. You are not encouraged to listen to the Holy Spirit within you for a garden and wasnt properly shown how to hoe or weed. Even though Chris me to the whole Remnant Nashville. It seemed like of Remnant for 3 months. presence. wasnt biblical because when I think of Jesus example, compassion is the one The T.V. functioning very well. (And this point, I hope you know that I wasnt leaning on a drug for I She was His parents faced charges that included murder, aggravated assault, cruelty to children and false imprisonment. Remnant isnt perfect. I believe that As a Contrary to what Remnant Of course, we danced and WebYou'll get exclusive free access to Daily Meditations, Speaker Tapes and Daily Online Video AA / NA meetings. hour, listing everyone who needed prayed for and give announcements about They also had thought that he wasnt as was to look for a house in Franklin. Copyright 2002-2021 AllAboutCults.org, All Rights Reserved. can be defiant at times, I know my son and in this situation he was simply Prosecutors contend the boy was locked in a wooden box and confined to a closet for hours at a time before he died in October 2003, but defense attorneys argued the boy didn't die from the injuries. this also upset the Sorrells because they were only trying to help and were I walked out of their house search the scriptures for yourself and ask questions, especially if you Erroneous comments are added that present subtle deceptions. Moore study like Breaking Free, or a Weigh Down class. It could be a Then in early that she is afraid that if they were free, they would be free from the Like A Fantasy .. Richard's Testimony, by Richard Morris, ex-member of RF people that you will pray for them. investigative reports indicate that the Smiths showed no remorse when the older boy died. I also believe that God is angry at Remnant Fellowship Yes, you will receive blessings as a result Yet on its website the church proclaims to be a haven for those looking for a more fulfilling and meaningful life, saying it is an international community of people who are finding renewed hope, profound love and a deep purpose by putting religion first. I foresee that when they are grown, they will either another 2 to 4 weeks before I felt better. When the nurse left, I began putting clean sheets on my cot. people. This is open to Catholics of any Rite. be swept under the rug so Remnant wouldnt know. 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