Neither rifle is what you would call tame. Shorter 12-1/2 stock and 24 barrel. Ole Roy wasn't the best at thinking up designs. I own two Weatherby rifles and have nothing but praise for the MKV design. I've shot the .460 Wby, and yes it's a handful to shoot - but it is not an artillery round strapped to your shoulder, and unless you plan to shoot it from a bench for hours on end, recoil is definitely manageable - particularly if the Wby you're shooting has the AccuBrake. Imagine shooting 270-grain bullets at 3100 fps, and 300s at 2900 fps. The 6.5/300 will go just as quickly. No, I don't have a .378 Weatherby, but I do have it's medium little brother, a .375 RUM. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Performance". Anyway, the old 270 grain Spire Point at the speed of light was very impressive on deer and elk. The cookie is created when the JavaScript library executes and there are no existing __utma cookies. I had a 416 Rigby for a while and then I had a 416 Remington for a longer while and I liked the Remington a lot. I load mine to about 2400 fps with 400gr Swift Aframes and old style steel Hornady solids. We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. Lee even offers a set of dies priced like 30-06 dies. The story behind Lott's desire to build a reliable .458 is pretty well known by now -- yet those real motives included having a case that would operate at lower pressures while giving just that little more than the .458 win promised but didn't then deliver. The 375 Weatherby Magnum could be considered a version of the "375 H&H Magnum Improved" family. I have read this and found it very interesting. JavaScript is disabled. These cookies help provide information on metrics the number of visitors, bounce rate, traffic source, etc. Of course, you can increase the velocity on a big bore. I would buy one. Jeffery introduced their .404 in 1909. YouTube sets this cookie via embedded youtube-videos and registers anonymous statistical data. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. 3 OF 8 PEOPLE HELPING ME TRACK THIS LION HAD SCARS FROM PREVIOUS LION HUNTS. Records the default button state of the corresponding category & the status of CCPA. The _ga cookie, installed by Google Analytics, calculates visitor, session and campaign data and also keeps track of site usage for the site's analytics report. Don Heath wrote an article quite a while ago -- after 1991 -- bemoaning a lot of cartridges and rifles, the .416 rem in mod 700 among them. We will inform you when the product arrives in stock. We will inform you when the product arrives in stock. Recoil is pretty rough. Able to fit into a .30-06-length action, with the propellants then available the .416 Taylor lacked the powder capacity to quite equal the .416 Rigbybut it came pretty close. The .30-378 Weatherby Magnum will drive a 180-grain bullet more than 3,300 fps. One comment: These modern cartridges are loaded to higher pressures than the .416 Rigby. Total:7,403 (members:1,016, guests:6,387). Matte finish. The 30/378 will knock your block off. Even the Weatherby bashers, who hate them because they can't afford the one they want, secretly lust for a 378. Today, those same performance qualities are every bit a part of Weatherby cartridges. Weatherby's cartridges have been first and foremost about speed, so when a . Across those four decades, he forever changed the way we look at and judge firearm performance. Weatherby's .30-378 is the .378 Weatherby Magnum necked down to .30 caliber and can drive a 180-grain bullet in excess of 3,400 fps. Even the 378 will make you sit up and take notice. The .378 recoil with a brake is not, at all, murderous. I was running into very large pigs and after having one charge me at less than 5 yards, the 375 H&H just didnt stop it. After he found out it would easily reach 2400fps he backed off to 2300fps loaded with 3031. Nothing runsit blasts them so hard they just collapse. .416 Ruger: 52.72: 17.56: 388: 2,528.416 Rigby: 52.49: 17.52: 400: 2,412.416 Remington Magnum: 50.46: . 30" barrels. I just bought a new .416 Rigby #1 and my underconstruction .416 Taylor is back in the shop doing a few more little things to it. All firearms are shipped domestic ground and an adult signature is required. All this discussion about the "felt recoil" of factory stocks seems moot. With the addition of long bullets in these calibers I believe that they would be valid contenders for long range hunting in both accuracy and down range engery. Just be certain that you send your ammo to your PH with enough time to confirm that it was received in good condition. These are not the only ammunitions you can use, but these are ammunitions regularly used during accuracy tests. Jack OConnor had a .416 Rigby; he made brass by turning the belts off of .460 Weatherby brass on a lathe. Then the 340 weatherby is just a tad slower and has some drawbacks but will have 3 in the magazine versus two with the 378's. So here is the question and dilemma I have Number 1. But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience. Griptonite stock with tungsten Cerakote barrel and action. Do any members have any experience with both calibers? I've heard of hunters shooting Cape Buffalo in spooky situations and reporting no remembered recoil. John. In other words, the brake is at its worst when up close, especially for the shooter and others close by. It is my belief that 416 Rigby velocities offer ample killing power, and that when you push the same bullets up toward 416 Weatherby velocities, for most riflemen recoil starts to get in the way of good shooting, negating the edge provided by the extra energy the 416 Wby. If I wanted to go really big on a long range monster killer I'd just go all in and probably build either a .375 or .408 Cheytac. The problem for many of the higher pressure cartridges being the heat where such big shells are used. GOING TO AFRICA TAKE ENOUGH GUN. Nice rifles, great shooting. The .450/.400, with a 400-grain bullet at about 2,100 fps, is much slower and produces less energy, about 4,000 ft-lbs. This cookie is set by the Google recaptcha service to identify bots to protect the website against malicious spam attacks. In times past there were many bullets that wouldn't. Some manufacturers offer 450-grain loads, but those are few and far between. Ive never seen a .416 solid at 2,400 fps fail to penetrate. These cookies help provide information on metrics the number of visitors, bounce rate, traffic source, etc. Coming home with this exciting news, and worried that AGS was gone for good, I looked up prices some online store is selling AGS for $200 per 25. I've had my best success with 350 TSXs and Magnum in the .378, but the 350 SMK performs well with H1000 too (seated just off the lands, the load pictured chronied at 2,830 fps with no pressure signs). This is the main cookie set by Hubspot, for tracking visitors. John Rigby was an astute ballistician and brilliant engineer, but exactly why or how he settled on the .416-inch bullet diameter seems to have been lost. It looks like a great platform for such an endeavor but I probably wouldn't buy one. The one bullet I recovered went through the upper leg, the top of the heart and lodged on the other side. My use will be for elk and bear. Performance was awesome, but please note that, when you add a couple hundred more feet per second recoil goes up sharply! Why, the .416 Taylor is .35 inch shorter, allowing for a shorter bolt throw! The now slightly shortened .300 Weatherby casewith smaller bulletsbecame the .257, .270, and 7mm Weatherbys. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. I replaced them with another crf .30-06 (shoots all ammo better), a 7mm rem mag (now have two rifles in that caliber -- something I wanted), which also shoots ammo well. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. When I shoot a critter, I automatically chamber a second round JUST in case. Any Rifle Chambered in .375, .378, .416 or .460 Weatherby Magnum Founded by legendary hunter Roy Weatherby, Weatherby Firearms produces some particularly high-quality rifles like the Mark V and the Vanguard models. The 378 Weatherby Magnum was created as a new cartridge, with a larger case capacity and bolt face diameter. $0.00 sold out. All loads were tested at 100 yards. Tell me what you need. I had my first .416 Rigby at that time, a Dumoulin. Skip to main content Skip to search. Woe is me!! I have had two 416 Rems and both would shoot fatory 400 grain SAF ammo at over 2500 fps. My Model 70`s and CZ`s controlled feed and my "other" bolt actions have NEVER failed to feed the next round ( including WSM caliber)! I'm not going to mess with that load. Capacity: Floor Plate. Far from it. Weatherby Vanguard .270Win Boyd's laminated Thumbhole stock Timney trigger Glass bedded barrel, action Vortex Diamonback 4-12x40 Dead hold BDC reticle for accuracy up to 700m Im an average shooter but manage 1/3" at 100m I Reloaded for this rifle Recipe will be included as well as 50 loads I previously prepared. Email inquiries only for accessories and non-firearm related items. In 1956, he contracted with both Sako and Schultz & Larsen to manufacture complete rifles, while he continued to make custom guns in California. The .416 Remington is loaded to higher pressureas is the .416 Weatherby. We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. It derives from the case for the .416 Rigby (right). John Rigby brought out his famous .416 in 1911, 410-grain bullet at fast (for the day) 2,370 fps, developing about 5,000 ft-lbs of energy. I realized it had been a long time since I took it to the range. I have a chance to pick up a .378 at a very good price, I don't believe the gun has ever been fired. CALL 662-494-0779 or email amorris@sbfgllc.com for firearm inquiries. Oct 26, 2011; Chuckdog. I dont have a .416 right now, but I do have a .404 Jeffery. It contains the domain, initial timestamp (first visit), last timestamp (last visit), current timestamp (this visit), and session number (increments for each subsequent session). Yesterday, I got my Lott out.. In tegenstelling tot de .416 Ruger en de .416 Remington, heeft de .416 Weatherby . T This picture is a representation of this item or a of group of items. $3,023.99. One way to think about this is as such: a foot-pound is a unit of energy equal to the amount of energy required to raise a weight of one pound a distance of one foot. USA. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Other. Although his exclusive arrangement with Mauser would soon end, when he designed his .416 he was the sole importer of magnum Mauser actions, so he was not constrained by case dimensions. JavaScript is disabled. Randy Brooks of Barnes Bullets told me he likes the 350 grain X bullet from a 416 Rem (probably the TXS nowadays) for everything including elephant, and IIRC, his load was in the 2550-2600 fps range which again is not a hot load. NOTHING SHOOTS FLATTER. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Performance". Their .378/.460 case is dimensionally the same as the .416 Rigby case, except the Weatherby version wears a belt. If you run toward tradition and nostalgia, then either the .416 Rigby or .404 Jeffery will have the most appeal. Google Analytics sets this cookie to inhibit request rate. ", I don`t put much faith in fake "reality" TV shows. Functional cookies help to perform certain functionalities like sharing the content of the website on social media platforms, collect feedbacks, and other third-party features. The cookie is updated every time data is sent to Google Analytics. (600 to 700 yards or so) I had a Shilen barrel put on along with a McMillan A5 stock. While experimenting with armor plating made of various materials during the 1960s, the U.S. government needed to determine its resistance to damage by high-speed projectiles. It is a lot faster, shooting nearly as flat as a .30-caliber magnum and developing as much energy as a .458 Lott: Spectacular! Rather than an oddball limited to handloaders, the .416 was a common caliber! #1. Weatherby also entered the .458 game in 1957, with their .460 Weatherby Magnum. To understand the development of the .416 Remington, you'll need to look at the environment in Great Britain after the end of the Second World War. He took the .375 H&H, blew out. De .416 Weatherby Magnum gebruikt dezelfde behuizing als de .378 Weatherby Magnum en de .460 Weatherby Magnum. Remington offers one in their Mod 700 abg (custom shop). I know that some shooters leaned on the Taylor pretty hard. .30-378 Weatherby Magnum (8).300 Weatherby Magnum (66).300 Win (22).308 Win (28).338 Lapua Magnum (1).338-378 Weatherby Magnum (5).340 Weatherby Magnum (1) When loaded to near Rigby velocity none of the famous shooters ever had a problem with cartridges sticking or being underpowered. In testing Ive done in ballistic wax the .416s always out-penetrate the slower big-bores. Matte finished metalwork and walnut stock. The cookies is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Necessary". All current rifles are so bored, but there are also .411-inch bullets available (which is the correct diameter for the old .405 Winchester. I have heard Rigby brass, loaded to the 40,000 CUP range, does indeed last forever! A couple of weeks later, Peter Johnstone and I approached a bachelor group of elephants feeding in dense mopane. reflex264. I wanted to zero it on Hornady 500 gr softs, and see which solids came closest. furnishes. In response, it is my recollection that Roy Weatherby's rational for the very high speed bullet was the effect of Hydrostatic Shock caused by the impact of a high speed bullet. The .411 KDF used a .411-inch bullet, as does the .400 H&H (developed in 2003). The bullet I used on the buffalo was a Barnes Original, 400 grains, heavy copper jacket and lead core. Vhita Vhouri has pressure tested loads with their powders and carried it beyonnd the Rigby levels with good pressures. I've never had the slightest trouble with the 416 Rem. I doubt there was any problem doing that even with older brass (and for many years the only brass readily available was Weatherby with the belt turned off) but today's fine brass from Norma and Federal is very stout. Ive used it at high temperatures in Cameroon, the Zambezi Valley and coastal Mozambique. http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=hunting+cape+buffalo+with+a+.378+Weatherby+magnum&qpvt=hunting+cape+buffalo+with+a+.378+Weatherby+magnum&FORM=VDRE#view=detail&mid=E7F35CDC0B14DCCDB7ECE7F35CDC0B14DCCDB7EC, Quote from: Marishka on July 07, 2014, 06:40:51 AM, http://www.huntinginafrica.co.za/more-info/minimum-required-caliber/, http://www.huntinginafrica.co.za/more-info/best-caliber-in-africa/, http://www.farrenglobaladventures.com/Caliber%20Minimums.htm, http://www.genesisafricansafaris.com/blog/?p=168, http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=604175, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjbmneNCNpQ, Quote from: badsection on July 09, 2014, 03:03:15 PM, Quote from: Marishka on July 08, 2014, 05:28:52 AM. This is the main cookie set by Hubspot, for tracking visitors. However, the various lower .40s with, 400-grain bullets at roundabout 2,400 fps, produce more energyand do it with heavier bullets with greater frontal area. It was a now of never shot. It offers an effective low-recoil option in double rifles. I've done several things to it to help control the recoil, and I've had no problems shooting smaller African antelope with it, shooting it from prone positions, and in making killing shots at ranges up to 350 yds. It may not display this or other websites correctly. However, the faster .416 bullet uses its higher velocity to overcome resistance; and its smaller-diameter bullet encounters less resistance. The .460 shoots everything well, and most loads extraordinarily. I had a 416 Rigby for a while and then I had a 416 Remington for a longer while and I liked the Remington a lot. Although you're not recoil-sensitive, the .460 Weatherby is a true beast, with something like 8. The rest of the group, including the more recent .500/.416 (Krieghoff), .416 Ruger (Hornady/Ruger), and current loads for the .404 Jeffery, all propel 400-grain bullets somewhere between 2,350 and 2,400 fps, with energies at or approaching 5,000 ft-lbs. In late spring 1989 Ed Weatherby and I used his new cartridge in Botswana, taking several buffaloes. He wanted a magnum version of his Model 77 that could house the .416 Rigby. I never saw any bolt action fail to feed if it wasn`t "short stroked". IIRC, you would have to order either of these chamberings without an Accubrake, as they come standard. The .375, on the other hand, can be commonly found with 250- and 300-grain bullets, and some manufacturers also produce 260- and 270-grain loads. Find out the best price on in-stock 9 mm cheap bulk ammunition from more than 100 ammo stores. It does not store any personal data. The cookie is set by GDPR cookie consent to record the user consent for the cookies in the category "Functional". The .416s are much more shootable, especially in a rifle of adequate weight (ten pounds or more). Allen, I'm surprised at you. The __hssrc cookie set to 1 indicates that the user has restarted the browser, and if the cookie does not exist, it is assumed to be a new session. Available in 20 ga. We use cookies on our website to give you the most relevant experience by remembering your preferences and repeat visits. The.416 Weatherby is much faster, with 400-grain bullet at 2,600 to 2,700 fps, yielding more than 6,000 ft-lbs. As for recoil, its like the old Russian proverb,"you can get used to anything, if you do it long enough, you can even get used to hanging". Your email address will not be published. #3. Their designation uses the smaller land (rather than groove or bullet) diameter. By 1958, he had his own Mark V Action that easily held the cartridge and two below it in the straight-feed magazine. The weatherby weighs 10.5 lbs. Further, in my rifle, I have been blessed with a very very tight 1-hole 3 shot group (maybe I will try to repeat the deed) -- which was in my first sight-in target for the rifle (you see two holes as I walked the zero to the x-ring, then 1 very slightly ragged hole cutting the ring at 4:30). After WWII the British Empire shrank rapidly as colonies gained independence. The wildcat .425 Express, developed by Cameron Hopkins and Whit Collins, uses a .423-inch bullet. Matte finish with synthetic stock. This cookie, set by YouTube, registers a unique ID to store data on what videos from YouTube the user has seen. Depending on which diameter, theres a maximum spread of only .007-inch between .416 and .423 This is the same difference between the .270 (.277-inch) and the 7mm (.284-inch) and with the much larger bullet diameter makes even less difference. Even just the new brass is $75/ box. . In the early 2000s, when it was really no longer necessary, I had a .416 Taylor, but it was George Hoffmans cartridge that introduced me to the .416 in the mid-Eighties. Bullet choices in .416 were growing apace: Barnes had their newfangled X-Bullet, and there was the Australian Woodleigh, A-Square, Swift A-Frame, Jack Carters Trophy Bonded Bearclaw, and both Hornady and Nosler added the .416 bullet diameter. Total Rigby production of .416s ran into the few hundreds. I wouldn't own a Remington rifle on a dare and the post above substantiates my reasoning. I have used and loaded for two 378's over the yearsnever shot that well with either. Records the default button state of the corresponding category & the status of CCPA. This cookie is passed to HubSpot on form submission and used when deduplicating contacts. Look in your loading manual. I'm leaning to the 378 because of bullet selection - Cutting Edge has a .375, 375gr bullet with a BC of .940, where the .416 Cutting Edge 375gr is around .825. The cookie stores information anonymously and assigns a randomly generated number to recognize unique visitors. HITS HARDER. I won`t hesitate to hunt anything anywhere with any of those four rifles, where "legal". Google Analytics sets this cookie, to determine new sessions/visits. I regularly shoot, 300WBY&340WBY, w/o brakes and recoil is healthy and stout even with these weaklings. It's as if one after the other tried to top the previous guy in his use of adjectives. I must be careful here. Not all the same bullets but these were the only ones in this . Bill Ruger proclaimed that it was his favorite DG cartridge and even built a few 77 and #1 rifles but stopped production because (never verified) W-W was supposed to produce ammo for them and decided not to. Too bad. When I go to Alaska, I pack 2 boxes of ammo in my rifle case with my Mk V. The .378 Weatherby Magnum - Shooting Times The .378 Weatherby Magnum Created in 1953, this big, powerful rifle cartridge had 43 percent more case capacity than the .375 H&H. The .378 Weatherby Magnum (center) greatly exceeds .375 H&H (left) power. Without question they used George Hoffmans work and their cartridge was almost identical to hisexcept Remington used their own 8mm Remington Magnum case, with a slightly different neck and less body taper. The action was milled out to accomodate a 95mm (Sorry, don't know the inches)internal magazine box and the feed ramp polished and shaped to feed slick. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. It is a dangerous-game cartridge intended for the hunting of heavy dangerous game such as elephant and African Cape buffalo. However, make no mistake, it is much more pleasant to shoot with a muzzle brake in place. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. TRACKING AND RUNNING INTO A PISSED OFF 650 LB LION AT 28 YARDS IN DENSE BRUSH-AFTER SEEING HOW TOUGH THEY ARE- 400 GRAIN DID NOT PASS THRU THE LION. The older 460 factory ammo at 500gr./2700 ft. per sec./8092ft. The block also does not include the 375 Weatherby Magnum or the 220 Weatherby Rocket. A couple of smaller bulls passedand then the big bull stepped forward. This cookie is set by Hubspot whenever it changes the session cookie. A cookie set by YouTube to measure bandwidth that determines whether the user gets the new or old player interface. Potomac River. This was Ed Weatherbys first cartridge after the death of his father, Roy Weatherby, in 1988. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Cloudflare sets this cookie to improve page load times and to disallow any security restrictions based on the visitor's IP address. Shipping not available to P.O. In the days before the .416 revival both .410/.411-inch bullets and .423-inch bullets were used for American wildcat and proprietary cartridges. The .375 Weatherby and RUM hit more like a .416 than a .375, and the big .378 is awesome but especially vicious in recoil. Long, long ago (1944), in a land that no longer exists called the United States of America, Roy Weatherby designed a new .375 cartridge to which he gave his name. TALKING TO 3 PROFESSIONAL HUNTERS- ALL SAID 416 IS THE BEST FOR DANGEROUS GAME- THE REASON I BOUGHT IT. A .416 (or similar) is more difficult to shoot well than a .375 and does not shoot as flat. Griptonite stock available in multiple camo patterns. Shoot, you don't even have to be loonie to enjoy it! The buffalo was my first buffalo with a .416. The .416 and the .240 Weatherby are the only 2 cartridges in the line that do not have a longer throat as even today's Weatherby's do not have the publicized freebore that was promoted back when the Mark V's were made in Germany with a lot of 12" twists across the range. when it's loaded properly, even in 100 + degree weather. Those who whine about muzzle brakes should be advised that hearing protection should be used when shooting powerful rifles (or when observing) whether the rifle has a brake or not. At the risk of sounding off topic I would like to say in the Taylor's defense that the belts have never been a problem for me. Jan 11, 2021. [3] It was an original belted magnum design with no parent case, inspired by the .416 Rigby and headspacing of the belted .375 H&H Magnum. Multiple camo patters available. Multiple camo patters available. YouTube sets this cookie to store the video preferences of the user using embedded YouTube video. Does Weatherby recommend specific ammunition for each caliber to get the best accuracy? Furthermore, the muzzle energy of a .30 M1 Carbine round averages out to 960 ft-lb, while a .300 AAC Blackout round averages out to about 1350 ft-lb. 338-378 Wby 200 Accubond is 8.3 low at 400 with a 300 yd 0. The greater difference, however, is that a .416 (or similar) is much more effective on the upper end. This cookie, set by YouTube, registers a unique ID to store data on what videos from YouTube the user has seen. I concur. Original trigger and polymer stock included Shot about 300 rounds with it from new . Weatherby MBT20N308NR4B Mark V Backcountry 2.0 Ti 5+1 Cap 26" Graphite Black Cerakote Rec/Barrel Black with Gray & White Sponge Accents Peak 44 Blacktooth Stock Right Hand (Full Size) . USA. Primarily because they work! I've fired .416 Rigby's that didn't kick anymore than a light weight .300 RUM. Doesn't some of the African countries still require a 40 caliber weapon or larger on the "big five" ? Developed by Roy's son, Ed, the 416 is a necked up version of the 378 exceeding the power and energy of the 416 Rigby, the 416 Remington Magnum and the 458 Winchester Magnum. Swift A-Frame bullets are well-proven bullets around the world. The 416 has quickly become one of the best all-around cartridges for Africa. I'm hoping the PK brake will tame it down a bit. Gunwriter John Wootters was a huge fan of the .416 Taylor; largely through his urging it almost became a factory cartridge twice, but didnt quite happen. Picture is a true beast, with a.416 solid at 2,400 fps fail to feed it... Specific ammunition for each caliber to get the best at thinking up designs,.270, and see which came... 2900 fps the MKV design still require a 40 caliber weapon or larger on the Taylor pretty hard on and... Scars from PREVIOUS LION HUNTS and carried it beyonnd the Rigby levels good... 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