shipyard, bound for the Tail of the Bank off Greenock. To find a ships official number go to theCrew List Index Project(CLIP) website, which has information about merchant ships from 1855 to 1913, or theMiramar Ship Indexwebsite (subscription required) which lists some categories of merchant and naval ships. the NORMANDIE, the QUEEN MARY and the QUEEN ELIZABETH. TheNational Records of Scotlandholds agreements and crew lists under the reference BT 3, covering 1867-1913, for Scottish ships only. Within that context, as Sir Percy Bates, the chairman of the Cunard Steamship Company, never tired of explaining: "The two new vessels represent the smallest and slowest ships which can fulfill these conditions and accomplish such a regular service. It is estimated that around 4050% of the wreck was still on the seabed. Early in the afternoon of 9th November a large, two-funnelled steamer was sighted, some six to seven miles away. The QUEEN ELIZABETH at full speed in the North Atlantic. To a post-war Britain she was to become what the, The QUEEN ELIZABETH left Southampton on 30th March 1946 and arrived and anchored off Greenock the following day. Despite the effectiveness of the new stabilisers to minimise rolling, nothing could be done to reduce the pitching. [15] [9], Queen Elizabeth sat at the fitting-out dock at the shipyard in her Cunard colours until 2 November 1939, when the Ministry of Shipping issued special licences to declare her seaworthy. WebNew York State, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1917-1967 to 1962 for NYC (fee-based - at Ancestry) Includes passenger and crew arrival lists (and some departure lists) for vessels that were filed at various ports (such as Binghamton, Buffalo, NYC, Niagara Falls, Oswego, Rochester, Syracuse, and other ports) in the state of New York. This would take at least an hour plus many miles, and this would not have allowed her to stop within Kessler's observation. All fields were usually completed. Discovery is a catalogue of archival records across the UK and beyond, from which you can search 32 million records. Her propellers were removed and cleaned and the underwater hull cleaned and painted. There were only five dry docks in the world which could accommodate the, The QUEEN ELIZABETH arrived at Singapore three weeks after leaving New York for a seven-week conversion into a troopship with accommodation for 5,000 troops. The QUEEN MARY photographed in mid-Atlantic. The two sets operated independently so that for a moderate roll only one set needed to be used. The keel of Yard No. Each piece in this series covers a number of ships and therefore appears in our catalogue as a range of numbers. Eventually both the House of Commons and the House of Lords voted and the Bill was passed on 27th March 1934. More than a year after the two 'Queens' had last met in New York, they sailed in company for the very first time in April 1941. WebHMS Queen Elizabeth during the Second World War 1939-1945. The planned several-week trip turned into months as the crew battled with boiler issues and a fire. (the French Line) brought out the ILE DE FRANCE in that year, and it was known that it was planning to build a superliner (which would be the NORMANDIE). This was the catalyst, but not the only cause, of the withdrawal of the two, The QUEEN ELIZABETH was not successful as a cruise ship. Commenced her first sailing from the Clyde, bound for New York, February 27, 1940. One detonation was heard. Breakfast was from 6.30am until 11.am; and dinner from 3.pm to 7.30pm. The work, Cunard estimated, would cost 750,000. In May 1936 tenders were opened from John Brown, Cammell Laird, Vickers Armstrong and Swan Hunter. WebThe Cunard - White Star Liner QUEEN ELIZABETH 1938 - 1972 LIVERPOOL SHIPS ACCRA OF 1947 ELDER DEMPSTER LINES AUREOL ELDER DEMPSTER LINES BRITANNIC and GEORGIC CUNARD WHITE STAR CARINTHIA CUNARD LINE EMPRESS OF BRITAIN CANADIAN PACIFIC EMPRESS OF CANADA LOSS BY FIRE The remainder, lying on the harbour bed, was blown up as the wreck was a hazard to navigation. WebHMS Queen Elizabeth is the largest and most powerful vessel ever constructed for the Royal Navy. Official logs are found with the agreements and crew lists, where they survive. They include registers of engagement, articles of agreement, registers of discharge, registers of deserters, and employment history records. Commenced her first regular Southampton-New York voyage, October 16, 1946, making the crossing in four days, 16 hours, 18 minutes. Chamberlain was also convinced of the tremendous importance from a prestige point of view of new large British ships steaming into New York harbour. This anticipated event never occurred and was considered very unlikely to occur, so the well space was plated in and used for additional accommodation. The ELIZABETH just before she sailed from Port Everglades. The starboard side of the boat deck on the QUEEN ELIZABETH. The river was also widened in places, especially at Dalmuir where the QUEEN MARY had grounded for many anxious seconds as she proceeded to the Tail of the Bank. We hold just 10% of the surviving records for this period. [37], The wreck was featured in the 1974 James Bond film The Man with the Golden Gun, as a covert headquarters for MI6. [9][10] It was announced that on 23 August 1939 King George VI and Queen Elizabeth were to visit the ship and tour the engine room and that 24 April 1940 was to be the proposed date of her maiden voyage. This is the story of the ship from the planning stages of the late 1920s, her war operations, her amazingly successful passenger service of the late 1940s and 1950s, and her demise in the mid 1960s. Sir John went on to say that he believed 1962 would show an improvement over 1961, but it was impossible to say how much at that stage. This meant that the crew had to re-sign on foreign-going Articles. A/CPO Lornie Peter Barnard. Gregg William. The UNITED STATES took the 'Blue Riband' on her maiden voyage. While waiting for the messenger, the ship was refuelled; adjustments to the compass and some final testing of equipment were also carried out before she sailed to her secret destination. The anchors were examined and each link of her anchor chains painted. Winter cruises from New York to the West Indies were poorly patronised and one was cancelled and replaced with an unscheduled Atlantic crossing. The QUEEN MARY and the QUEEN ELIZABETH met for the last time when they were both at sea. For the first time it seemed possible that two ships could be built which would be able to maintain a weekly express service between Southampton and New York, doing the work previously done by three ships. Search for crew lists and agreements from 1951 to 1994 at: The National Archives search our 10% sample by ships number inBT 99. There was no call at Cherbourg; the ship was fully booked from Southampton and much work still needed to be done to make the harbour at the French port safe again. The keel, boilers and engines remained at the bottom of the harbour, and the area was marked as "Foul" on local sea charts, warning ships not to try to anchor there. On 1st January 1950 the Cunard Steamship Company took over its wholly-owned subsidiary, Cunard - White Star. Dr Maguire said that he never did find out just who was responsible for that risky mid-ocean mail collecting. WebQueen Elizabeth docked at Southampton in 1967. AB. She was nonetheless a popular ship. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. [25] However, the strategy did not prove successful, owing to the ship's deep draught, which prevented her from entering various island ports, her width, which prevented her from using the Panama Canal, and also her high fuel costs. Ships did not have an official number before 1855. Recently introduced legislation by the International Maritime Commission also influenced the board's decision. The QUEEN ELIZABETH's bow, unlike that of the Mary, was heavily raked. Harland & Wolff found itself in a peculiar situation. So it was clear that the ships must be fast, strongly built to face North Atlantic weather, and have a sufficient reserve of power to make up any time lost through bad weather. CPO. Rear Admiral Carruthers Joseph William. All Digitized Passenger Lists For the RMS Queen Elizabeth Available at the GG Archives. Following the end of the Second World War, Queen Elizabeth was refitted and furnished as an ocean liner,[9] while her running mate Queen Mary remained in her wartime role and grey appearance except for her funnels, which were repainted in the company's colours. Together with Queen Mary and in competition with the American liners SSUnited States and SSAmerica, Queen Elizabeth dominated the transatlantic passenger trade until their fortunes began to decline with the advent of the faster and more economical jet airliner in the late 1950s. RMS Queen Elizabeth, World's Largest Liner. These are not two separate documents but one and the same thing; you may see them referred to simply as crew lists, or sometimes simply as agreements. These lists do not include passengers who joined ships en route. the dock from her, on the north side of Pier 88, is the NORMANDIE. While being constructed in the mid-1930s by John Brown and Company at Clydebank, Scotland, the build was He presented the ship with a plaque from the Department of Defense to commemorate the liner's remarkable war service. [17] In mid-March, carrying 8,000 American soldiers, Queen Elizabeth began a 7,700-mile voyage from San Francisco to Sydney, Australia. The ship sat like a giant beacon in the middle of Clydebank, visible for miles around. On 27th May the Clydebank men were told they had the order. This was designed so that the Government would assume responsibility of the risk of the ship's insurance value over and above the amount which the market could absorb. [15] Queen Elizabeth zigzagged across the Atlantic to elude German U-boats and took six days to reach New York at an average speed of 26 knots. The QUEEN MARY had left Southampton on 30th August 1939 on a liner voyage to New York with 2,328 passengers and remained there after her safe arrival, lying alongside Cunard's Pier 90. This was simply a record of the total number of crew (known as a muster roll), but it evolved into what are known as crew lists and agreements. On 28th May 1930, the Cunard Company told John Brown & Company of Clydebank that it had been selected as the builder of the first of the two new ships. With Japan and the United States entering the war after the debacle of Pearl Harbor on 7th December 1941, the QUEEN ELIZABETH was laid up at Sydney for seven weeks. She did, however, remain all the while under Cunard management with British officers and crew. [21], The ship ran aground on a sandbank off Southampton on 14 April 1947, and was re-floated the following day. Two of the ship's fire warning system brass plaques were recovered by a dredger, and were displayed at The Aberdeen Boat Club in Hong Kong in an exhibit about the ship. after a visit to the Liverpool Cruise Terminal. Crew lists and agreements were either for foreign voyages or foreign trade or home voyages or home trade. Use this section for advice on finding crew lists and agreements from 1835 up to 1999. We'd like to use additional cookies to remember your settings and understand how you use our services. A major problem to be settled concerned the insurance of the liner while she was being built, together with the future full sea risks when she was operational. The original design for the engines was for single-reduction geared turbines, the brainchild of Sir Charles Parsons, in which a reduction gear box is placed between the turbine and the propeller shaft for the purpose of allowing both the turbines and the propellers to run at speeds of revolution suitable for maximum efficiency; high speeds of revolution are required for turbine efficiency and low speeds for propeller efficiency. Some 30 Cunard staff had been retained, mostly engineers to assist in running the boilers and generators. The normal insurance market would not be able to provide cover for anything like the whole cost. -__________________________________________________________, Cunard Line QUEEN ELIZABETH of 1938, Part 1, Cunard Line QUEEN ELIZABETH of 1938, Part 2, Arrivals & DeparturesQueen Elizabeth Southampton 1950, (from an original painting by Robert Lloyd). She docked on the north side of Pier 90 at 5.pm on the afternoon of Thursday, 7th March 1940. Within a few short minutes the plans, hopes and successes of three decades came to an end as syrens boomed out across the water, the whole poignant scene witnessed by just a few passengers braving the night wind. [9] Elizabeth, as she was now called, arrived in Port Everglades on 8 December 1968 and opened to tourists in February 1969, well before Queen Mary, which opened two years later, in 1971. The QUEEN ELIZABETH leaving her berth at Pier 90, New York, The scene on the port wing of the QUEEN ELIZABETH's bridge as the, ship swings in the Hudson River before heading down river, across. Steam locomotives delivered the steel plates, but lighter items were brought in by horse-drawn lorries. Within each box the lists are randomly arranged. Neville Chamberlain now had the difficult task of steering the North Atlantic Shipping (Advances) Bill through the tortuous channels of Parliament. As soon as the decision to retire the 'Elizabeth' was made public, her cruises and Western Ocean crossings became popular with those who had travelled on and had loved the ship over the kength of her career. GGA Image ID # 1d36e82385 Queen Elizabeth (1940) Cunard Line Built by John Brown & Co., Clydebank, Glasgow, Scotland. The QUEEN ELIZABETH entering the King George V Dry Dock. She was there to launch the second of Cunard's superliners - the QUEEN ELIZABETH. WebSearch and download () lists of passengers boarding at UK and Irish ports and travelling to places such as America, Canada, India, New Zealand and Australia between 1890 and 1960 (BT 27) on the findmypast.co.uk website and also on the Ancestry.co.uk website. The dock would have to be 124 feet wide at its entrance and have a minimum depth of 40 feet. The Clydebank yard was awarded the contract with a tender of 4,293,000. WebThe National Records of Scotland holds agreements and crew lists under the reference BT 3, covering 1867-1913, for Scottish ships only. Lady Assistant Pursers were introduced on the Cunard liners after the, Second World War. They begin to appear amongst the records from 1852 onwards; many have been destroyed; usually only those recording a birth or death have survived. [15] Parts were shipped to Southampton, and preparations were made to move the ship into the King George V Graving Dock when she arrived. The railway company expressed the view that the projected dry dock could not be started for some eight to ten years and that it would take between four and five years to complete. Barry Claud Barrington. If oil were adopted as the best type of fuel, Cunard would always have to bear in mind the possibility of oil shortages, and back in 1926 it had been seriously suggested that the new ships might be generally arranged so that in the case of such an emergency arising it would be possible to convert them to coal burning. Half her crew was paid off and went on leave, whilst around 400 remained with the ship for maintenance, fire watch and to sail the ship on the coastwise voyage to the Clyde. The other ships that were in Southampton that unhappy morning saluted the QUEEN ELIZABETH as she passed but received no acknowledgement to their respectful signals. Both Queen Elizabeth and Churchill sent messages of congratulation to Captain Townley. Costing almost twice as much as the, Sir Percy Bates had wisely waited for anticipated developments in boiler design to occur. WebRMS Queen Mary: 80,774 GRT: 1936: Currently a Hotel ship 16 October 1946 (entered service) RMS Queen Elizabeth: 83,673 GRT: 314 m (1,031 ft) 1946 1972 (Destroyed by fire) Scrapped in 1974 (after sinking) 3 February 1962 (entered service) SS France (1962-1980) SS Norway (post-1980) 66,343 GRT(as built) 76,049 GRT (final size) [5] She was launched on 27 September 1938 and named in honour of Queen Elizabeth, who was later known as the Queen Mother. Public interest in the ELIZABETH quickly waned and by June 1969 the liner was again up for sale. During two years of near neglect, deterioration had rapidly set in, especially in the fragile boiler tubes. The Pacific was too dangerous for her with both German and Japanese submarines on the prowl. Gregg William. There was some talk of permanently flooding the bilge and allowing the Queen Elizabeth to rest on the bed of the Intracoastal Waterway in Ft. Lauderdale harbour (Port Everglades) and remain open, but the ship was forced to close in August 1970, after losing money and being declared a fire hazard. Whilst in Singapore many of the crew frequented a pub called the 'Pig and Whistle'. [22] Despite specifications similar to those of Queen Mary, Queen Elizabeth never held the Blue Riband, for Cunard White Star chairman Sir Percy Bates asked that the two ships do not try to compete against each other. Another essential rule was that each man, regardless of rank, should wear or carry his lifebelt when outside his cabin at all times. The ship sat like a giant beacon in the middle of Clydebank, visible for miles around. in the Firth of Clyde, the U.K. terminal port for the G.I. It was agreed that the QUEEN ELIZABETH should spend twelve weeks on the Clyde (at her old wartime anchorage) plus ten weeks at Berth 101 in Southampton and in the King George V dry dock. The American liner made 44 Atlantic crossings and carried 70,104 passengers in 1955. In the centre, on the south side of Pier 90, is the QUEEN MARY, and across. Dimensions, 987' x 118' (1,031' o.l.). The work, Cunard estimated, would cost 750,000. Portions of the hull that were not salvaged were left at the bottom of the bay. The 1971 film version starring Connery used the P&O liner SSCanberra for the sequence. The following year the wreck was deemed an obstruction to shipping in the area, and in 1974 and 1975 was partially scrapped on site. The popularity of the two, The first hint of competition from the airlines came in October 1951 and this resulted in speeding up the turn-round of the ', From the mid 1940s until the mid 1950s both the, The unreliability of statistics - or should it be said the ability to interpret them in several ways - is illustrated in the case of the UNITED STATES and the QUEEN ELIZABETH. But the QUEEN ELIZABETH made only 38 crossings and yet carried 66,000 passengers, giving a average of 1,752. The continuing popularity of the 'Queens' was shown by the fact that they carried 110,800 passengers between them in 1960. For the two meals a day that were provided there were six sittings, each of forty-five minutes. It is said that ship repairers always complain that shipowners never give them long enough to complete annual overhauls. Eight days later the 'slow boat to China' arrived at Hong Kong. The QUEEN ELIZABETH departing from the river of her birth, and her. As well as state-of-the-art weaponry and communications systems, HMS Queen Elizabeth boasts five gyms, a chapel and a medical centre. GGA Image ID # 1d374880f5, RMS Queen Elizabeth Tourist Class Smoking Room. Internally the condensers and oil cooler inlets were cleared of shells and gravel. The work would include the installation of full air conditioning, the fitting of private showers and toilets in much of the cabin class and tourist class accommodation, and the creation of a lido at the after end of the promenade deck, incorporating an outdoor heated swimming pool. CPO. Information on the holdings of The National Archives are decribed in The National Archives' Merchant Seamen: Agreements and Crew Lists after 1861. She also has the distinction of being the largest-ever riveted ship by gross tonnage. At a boat drill on 27th February the assembled crew were told of Churchill's order that the ship was to leave British waters. An alternative site was found at Fort Lauderdale in Florida. The trend of development in the design of Atlantic liners since the coming of steam had been towards larger and faster ships; the larger ships being more comfortable as they were less affected by the elements, whilst the increased speed shortened the trip. WebFirst time the Queen Mary carried American troops (8,398 troops, 905 crew). Some of the publications below may be available to buy fromThe National Archives bookshop. A week after her arrival at Gourock, the QUEEN ELIZABETH sailed for Suez on 17th June (via Freetown and Simonstown) with reinforcements for the British Eighth Army to help stem Rommel's advance towards the Canal. The QUEEN ELIZABETH was reported as being in excellent shape with her engines in tip-top condition. However another of the still operational boilers was badly damaged: she was now down to just three. On the orders of the neutral American government (in accordance with the Geneva Convention), only maintenance or construction work of a non-beligerent nature could be carried out on the liners moored along the New York waterfront. He said that it had become a source of irritation to him and his colleagues on the board. For the purpose of this list, they have been included as Cunard ships. Mildenhall Wilfred Charles. During the turnround in New York on her second G.I. The QUEEN ELIZABETH at anchor at the Tail of the Bank in the Firth, of Clyde as John Brown's workmen transform her from a troopship. With flight time cut from twelve to less than seven hours, the lure was irresistible. [13] Cunard's plan was for the ship to be launched in September 1938, with fitting-out intended to be complete for the ship to enter service in the spring of 1940. In that year there would be only two days on which a high enough tide would be available to move the QUEEN ELIZABETH. The prominent square ventilation cowls on the Mary were also dispensed with on the new ship; fans of a newer design were installed inside the ship. In June 1952 the QUEEN ELIZABETH was recording some very fast passages, just prior to the entry into service of the UNITED STATES on 4th July. The King George V Dock at Southampton, specially built for the 'Queens' was unusable because it was within range of Nazi bombers; the use of the American dock at Bayonne, New Jersey, was denied because of U.S. neutrality; the Esquimault dock on the west coast of Canada was just too far away, and the French dock at St Nazaire (built for the NORMANDIE) was out of the question. The Cunard Line carried 177,547 passengers across the North Atlantic in 1961, 30,000 below the previous year's total. The QUEEN ELIZABETH was now equipped to carry 15,000 troops although the numbers were reduced to 12,000 in the winter months. Each fin had an outreach of 12 feet 6 inches and was 7 feet 3 inches wide. Very few seem to have been preserved in official archives in the UK, although occasionally a Release (List M) for the whole crew may be found with the crew lists inBT 98. Works of art were also renovated by the original artists. Seaman Lornie Peter Barnard. They were huge sitting targets in a hostile ocean. Before the ship had even left her berth, one of the six operational boilers developed leaks in its tubes and was declared inoperable. This was known as a 'degaussing' coil. The QUEEN ELIZABETH approaching the north side of Pier 90 at New York. The new centrally-placed companionway is in place in this photo and there's a repaint where the ladders once were. Sir Percy Bates stressed that "she would be no slavish copy of her sister". Two months later the purchasers realised that the river was not deep enough. A temporary electrical fault had developed with the. ", Neville Chamberlain, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, was convinced that faced with the growing competition from foreign liner companies there was not room for two big British companies acting in opposition to each other on the North Atlantic trade. Were examined and each link of her sister '' off Greenock estimated, would cost 750,000 voyage from Francisco. 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