Rack number?, club inventory number? But here is the thing, that number on that No 4 is stamped in an area where some manufacturers stamped the year it was made. The main deficiency of the rounds at the time was that they used heavy, round-nosed bullets that had low muzzle velocities and poor ballistic performance. [23] The barrel was now halfway in length between the original long rifle and the carbine, at 25.2 inches (640 mm). [53] These rifles were designated as the No. Early models of the LeeMetford and LeeEnfield even used a short length of chain to secure the magazine to the rifle. 4 variants, Katanga: bought for police force but also used by army. [35], In 1926, the British Army changed their nomenclature; the SMLE became known as the Rifle No. Third quarter numbers commenced with A85831. 5. A very collectable rifle indeed, but by no means rare. Most of these were 1931 and 1933 dated No. Lee Enfield SMLE No1 Mk1 .303 Serial Number 1 - YUP Serial number 1 Made in the LSA ( london small arms factory ) this is rifle number 1 a very rare find and a jewel in my collection, here. Japan: Captured from British Army during World War II. This sight line like other aperture sight lines proved to be faster and more accurate than the typical mid-barrel rear sight elements sight lines offered by Mauser, previous LeeEnfields or the Buffington battle sight of the 1903 Springfield. 4 Mk I (T) and No. Both Savage and Long Branch started off by making No4 Mk1 rifles (with bolt catch) before moving production to the slightly simplified 1* version. Dave91 Apr 25, 2010 The #1 community for Gun Owners of the Northeast Member Benefits: No ad networks! The serial number is DA22567A, above the serial number it says NO.4 MK1 F (FTR) that is all the markings I can really see on the gun and I was wondering what year the rifle was made, the model it is, & how much it is worth? The products were marketed under alliterative names e.g. Small numbers of LeeEnfield rifles were built as, or converted to, experimental automatic loading systems, such as the British Howell and South African Rieder and the best-known of which was the Charlton Automatic Rifle, designed by a New Zealander, Philip Charlton in 1941 to act as a substitute for the Bren and Lewis gun light machine guns which were in chronically short supply at the time. [30] The magazine cut-off was reinstated after the First World War ended and not entirely dispensed with in manufacturing until 1933 and some cut-offs remained on rifles so-equipped into the 1960s. Lee Enfield Number 4 Mk2 .303 1953. [74], In the early 1950s Essential Agencies Ltd. I (T) sniper rifles in 19411942 at RSAF Enfield. Rifles so marked were assembled using parts from various other manufacturers, as part of a scheme during the First World War to boost rifle production in the UK. Thanks to inter-war development, an improved and simplified design was waiting in the wings, and the No. 4 rifle was heavier than the No. 4 Mk. 4 Mk I Long Branch aperture sights, LeeEnfield No. 4 Mk 2 rifles: Note 1: Second World War UK production rifles had manufacturer codes for security reasons. Note the block-style S of the J. Stevens Company. It is one of 75,000. 4 Mk 2. Matching serial numbers. Work on a long-range replacement cartridge began in 1910 and resulted in the .276 Enfield in 1912. Short Magazine Lee Enfield 3. I* (T) sniper rifles. 1 Mk. I have a No4 MkI cruciform bayonet made by Singer Sewing Machine. So as to match critical parts, serial number was also stamped under the rear sight leaf (and fore-ends, nosecaps, bolts, of Lee-Enfields too). Magazine cut-off on an SMLE Mk III rifle. Lee Enfield No.4 Mk. 409 Savage Lee Enfield Today I was gifted a family gun I saw once in the early 1960's. It was carried by a man who introduced me to deer hunting. for the rest of the story you need to post some really good photos , there is a question or two that jump to mind but ill leave those to the more knowledgeable among us . A transitional model the No. There were three main batches of conversions. 1 Mark III and No. [72] Post-Second World War, SAF Lithgow converted a number of SMLE rifles to commercial sporting rifles- notably the .22 Hornet model- under the 'Slazenger' brand. can anyone help with solving the question of dates and serial numbers not adding up? Truth be known about Enfield serial numbers is . James Purdey and Sons fitted special buttstocks later in the war. During World War II, the British standardized their sniper equipment as the Lee-Enfield Number 4 Mark I (T). Many of these muskets were rechambered, after being sold as surplus, and can now be used with commercially available ammunition. The results of the trials that were conducted on the L8 series rifles were mixed and the British Government and the Ministry of Defence decided not to convert their existing stocks of LeeEnfield No. Pluralsight Android Threads Getting Started Torrent, Fundamentals Of Computer By E. Balagurusamy, Download Driver Usb Samsung Galaxy Y Gt-s5360b, Driver Hp Notebook 14 G102au Windows 7 32 Bit, Star Wars Battlefront 2 Binkw32.dll Error, 10-round magazine, loaded with 5-round charger clips. These unusual rifles have something of a mysterious service history, but represent a missing link in SMLE development. Rifle No 5 on display at the Parachute Regiment and Airborne Forces Museum. 4 and No. I rifles made at Enfield. Then, the work was assigned to Holland & Holland, the famous British sporting gun manufacturers, which converted about 23,000 No. Discussion in 'Non-XD Handguns' started by BobTheMasher, Mar 21, 2009. [85] The L8 series of rifles consisted of L8A1 rifles (converted No.4 Mk2 rifles), L8A2 rifles (converted No.4 Mk1/2 rifles), L8A3 rifles (converted No.4 Mk1/3 rifles), L8A4 rifles (converted No.4 Mk1 rifles), and L8A5 rifles (converted No.4 Mk1* rifles). [72] The restrictions placed on 'military calibre' rifles in New South Wales were lifted in 1975, and many people who had converted their LeeEnfields to the 'wildcat' rounds converted their rifles back to .303 British. RFI, in India, converted a large number of MkIII rifles to single shot muskets, chambered for the .410 Indian Musket cartridge. [14][106] As of 2012, LeeEnfield rifles (along with MosinNagants) are still being used by the Taliban insurgents against NATO/Allied forces in Afghanistan.[91]. 4 Mark I rifle was adopted on Nov. 15, 1939. Can any one help with identifying this rifle? I* (T) sniper rifles were converted to this new calibre and designated L42A1. Police forces in both the Solomon Islands and Vanuatu continue to operate and maintain stocks of No.4 rifles. [82] It fired in semi-automatic only and suffered some feeding and extraction problems and, despite meeting accuracy and soundness of design concept, never made it past the prototype stage. Like the No. 4 Mk I* rifles are all stamped 'US PROPERTY'. Rifle & Carbine Serial Number Log. Initial production was 1,403 conversions of 19311933 troop trials No. thats what I thought. [10][11] The WWI versions are often referred to as the 'SMLE', which is short for the common 'Short Magazine LeeEnfield' variant. The LeeEnfield rifle is a popular gun for historic rifle enthusiasts and those who find the 10-round magazine, loading by charger clips, and the rapid bolt-action useful for Practical Rifle events. I and converted to sniper equipment by Royal Small Arms Factory Enfield early in 1942. Attachments DSCF2312.jpg 154 KB Views: 1,217 DSCF2313.jpg 63.7 KB Views: 775 LeeEnfield No. Despite a rubber butt-pad, the .303 round produced excessive recoil due to the shorter barrel. The rifle was also equipped with a detachable sheet-steel, 10-round, double-column magazine, a very modern development in its day. Both were located at Long Branch, Ontario. 4 rifles, except for the new barrel (which still retained the original No.4 rifle bayonet lugs) and magazine. Canadian sniperSergeant Harold Marshall carries a No. The original bolt would be proofed to 18 ton's per square inch of pressure. The LeeEnfield family of rifles is the second oldest bolt-action rifle design still in official service, after the MosinNagant. Sliding ramp rear sights, fixed-post front sights, 'dial' long-range volley; telescopic sights on sniper models. A redesign of the LeeMetford (adopted by the British Army in 1888), the LeeEnfield superseded the earlier MartiniHenry, MartiniEnfield, and LeeMetford rifles. [21] Some of the MLEs (and MLMs) were converted to load from chargers, and designated Charger Loading LeeEnfields, or CLLEs. Are you interested in CNo7 serial numbers as well? For the No. [97] Magazine supply/importation (M14 and AK 10 single stack mag) whilst legal in Australia, it has been spasmodically curtailed by Australian Federal Customs (for more information, see Gun politics in Australia). Indian Merchant Service who died 30/12/1915 BOMBAY 1914-1918 MEMORIAL, MUMBAI India. 4 rifles and brought them up to the same standard as the No. [44] With the introduction of the No. [10], The LeeEnfield rifle was introduced in November 1895 as the .303 calibre, Rifle, Magazine, LeeEnfield,[10] or more commonly Magazine LeeEnfield, or MLE (sometimes spoken as 'emily' instead of M, L, E). The shorter length was controversial at the time: many Rifle Association members and gunsmiths were concerned that the shorter barrel would not be as accurate as the longer MLE barrels, that the recoil would be much greater, and the sighting radius would be too short. I myself could not even hazard a guess on a price. [96] AIA also offered the AIA M10-A1 rifle, a Jungle Carbine-styled version chambered in 7.6239mm Russian, which uses AK-47 magazines. The accuracy requirement was ability to place 7 of 7 shots in a 5 inches (12.7 cm) circle at 200 yards (183 m) and 6 of 7 shots in a 10 inches (25.4 cm) circle at 400 yards (366 m). 4 action, but lightened and shortened, chambered in .303 British. There were more than 317,000 Mk I MLE rifles produced and nearly 600,000 Mk I* MLE rifles. 32 telescope progressed through three marks with the Mk. 4 Mk. I'm making it a sticky for your reference: http://home.earthlink.net/~smithkaia8/theenfieldlists/ yockey5 15K 2 Vietnam: Vit Minh captured LeeEnfields from French forces. ), of Toronto, Ontario, produced a run of several thousand survival rifles based on the No. All SNs appear to be matching but the original serial was crossed out and reserialized most likely when it reentered service during WWII. It should be used only as a general guide. 32 Mk. p. 372. 0 Location:London SW19 Interests:British military Small Arms and ammunition. [14], Many people still hunt with as-issued LeeEnfield rifles, with commercial .303 British ammunition proving especially effective on medium-sized game. ISBN0-949749-37-0. The rest of the story is that this carbine was accepted into New Zealand service in 1899 and was assigned inventory number 1909. I do remember reading something by Peter Laidler, so forgive me if I dont recall it correctly. About 3,000 rifles, mostly Stevens-Savage, appear to have been partially converted by Holland & Holland but never received brackets, scopes of the final 'T' mark. (serial) number on. These conversions were prompted by firearms legislation that made possession of a rifle chambered in a military cartridge both difficult and expensive. 5 groove Rifling in excellent condition. Insurance value would best be conducted by an insurance company that deals specifically with firearm relics such as a 124 year old Lee-Enfield rifle. RSAF ENFIELD CONVERSIONS 1941 - 1942 - The first batch of conversions. Your rifle had the left sidewall ground down, quite roughly in spots. Also the number on the receiver has been ground off. Very interesting site about Lee Enfield Rifle Markings. Nepalese Police constables may also be usually seen equipped with SMLE rifles. 5 Mk I as a 'Jungle Carbine'. I (T) Serial number 0C820 made by Stevens-Savage as a No. 24 Oct 2008. 3. Lee-Enfield - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. [62][63] No. Generally inferior workmanship, including weak/soft metal, poorly finished wood, and badly struck markings. (E.A.L. [34], The Pattern 1914 Enfield and M1917 Enfield rifles are based on the Enfield-designed P1913, itself a Mauser 98 derivative and not based on the Lee action, and are not part of the LeeEnfield family of rifles, although they are frequently assumed to be. Ottoman Empire: Captured rifles, used as reserve weapons. III, largely due to its heavier barrel. [105], Khyber Pass Copies patterned after the LeeEnfield are still manufactured in the Khyber Pass region, as bolt-action rifles remain effective weapons in desert and mountain environments where long-range accuracy is more important than rate of fire. Previous conversions to Drill Purpose (DP) of otherwise serviceable rifles were not considered to be sufficiently incapable of restoration to fireable state and were a potential source of reconversion spares. 1 Mk V), adopted a new receiver-mounted aperture sighting system, which moved the rear sight from its former position on the barrel. I, Mk. The next year, a shorter version was introduced as the LeeEnfield Cavalry Carbine Mk I, or LEC, with a 21.2-inch (540 mm) barrel as opposed to the 30.2-inch (770 mm) one in the 'long' version. Hand. I have a No.1 Mk III British SMLE.303 I already ordered a book/manual on the rifle that shows how to tell certain details by the markings but i would like to look up my specific rifle by serial number. I suggest if you bolt has not been proofed with the rifle; get it checked for fit and a new proof. ), Rhineland Arms produces .45 ACP conversion kits for the LeeEnfield action using M1911 pistol magazines.[113]. Jordan: Arab Legion used Mk III and No. 4 Mk I, because the Lithgow Small Arms Factory was producing the SMLE Mk III. Just saying that here is an instance where a number was mistaken as a date. A_square, I thought that at first as well, but that last number looks open at the top to me. Your rifle,even with your 252 serial number does not mean it is pretty rare. Originally, the concept of a detachable magazine was opposed in some British Army circles, as some feared that the private soldier might be likely to lose the magazine during field campaigns. The LeeSpeed Sporter was a higher quality British made version of the LeeEnfield. Volley Sights Arabic butt disc marked ( Ottoman Empire captured) This has come out of the 'Hans Gnter Collection' 890.00. 1 Mk V rifles were manufactured solely by R.S.A.F. (Unofficial motto of the Royal Air Force). The Lee action cocked the striker on the closing stroke of the bolt, making the initial opening much faster and easier compared to the 'cock on opening' (i.e., the firing pin cocks upon opening the bolt) of the Mauser Gewehr 98 design. good idea, I will have. 32 Mk. MAGAZINE LEE RIFLES & CARBINES Lee-Metford Lee-Enfield Note: Charger loaders and conversions are family. It's not stamped all that well so that doesn't help. A new bayonet was designed to go with the rifle: a spike bayonet, which was essentially a steel rod with a sharp point and was nicknamed 'pigsticker' by soldiers. Some rifles (such as LongBranch) had very finely marked serial numbers done with an engraving pen on the receiver wall. [46] A 'Shortened and Lightened' version of the SMLE Mk III* rifle was also tested by the Australian military and a very small number were manufactured at SAF Lithgow during the course of the Second World War. 4 Mark I would be adopted in 1941 and serve until 1952, until replaced by the M1 Garand. Lee Enfield 303 Serial Numbers 1 How can I look up my SMLE's history by serial? Poland: used by the Polish Armed Forces in the West, Portugal: used by the Portuguese Expeditionary Corps, during the First World War. Enfield Trials Rifle . [67], The C No.7 22' MK.I rifle is a .22 single shot, manually fed, training version of the No.4 Mk I* rifle manufactured at Long Branch. IV[60] from 1921 onwards. 4 MK. The L59A1 was a conversion of the No4 Rifle (all Marks) to a Drill Purpose Rifle that was incapable of being restored to a firing configuration. A total of 24992 .303 rifles were in Norwegian inventory at the time. The rifles were manufactured by parts outsourcing and were assembled and finished in Australia, chambered in 7.6251mm NATO and fed from modified M14 magazines. #9. It was a simplified version of the Short, Magazine, Lee-Enfield rifle that served the Empire so well in the first unpleasantness. Again, thanks for the help! It is one of 2500 out of 25,000 made by BSA. However, one thing is undisputed: Some Enfield No 4 Mk 2 rifles were . [37] The design was found to be even more complicated and expensive to manufacture than the Mk III and was not developed or issued, beyond a trial production of about 20,000 rifles between 1922 and 1924 at RSAF Enfield.[37]. Lee Enfield rifles are used by the Jamaica Constabulary force for training recruits during field-craft exercises and drills. The latter will have an engraving on the flat side of the receiver which will read something like (taking one of my rifles as an example), F(FTR)49. A standard (complete) 1942 Longbranch Lee Enfield No4 Mk1* Rifle made for Britain during WW2. The used value of an ENFIELD SMLE MARK 3 rifle has risen $89.20 dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $625.64 . Grizzley1 Registered Joined Aug 31, 2014 [20] Many LECs (and LMCs in smaller numbers) were converted to special patterns, namely the New Zealand Carbine and the Royal Irish Constabulary Carbine, or NZ and RIC carbines, respectively. The No. 4 Mk 2 (Arabic numerals replaced Roman numerals for official designations in 1944) rifle, a refined and improved No. 4 rifles to 7.6251mm NATO as part of a programme to retain the LeeEnfield as a reserve weapon. [27], During the First World War, the SMLE Mk III was found to be too complicated to manufacture (an SMLE Mk III rifle cost the British Government 3/15/) and demand was outstripping supply, so in late 1915 the Mk III* was introduced, which incorporated several changes, the most prominent of which were the deletion of the magazine cut-off mechanism, which when engaged permits the feeding and extraction of single cartridges only while keeping the cartridges in the magazine in reserve, and the long-range volley sights. Ishapore 2A and Ishapore 2A1 receivers are made with improved (EN) steel (to handle the increased pressures of the 7.6251mm round)[89] and the extractor is redesigned to suit the rimless cartridge. TonyE R.I.P. III (Mk. The British military switched over to the 7.6251mm NATO round in the 1950s; starting in 1970, over 1,000 of the No. VIEWS British "Enfield" rifles are some of the most iconic small arms in the world. In British service, the No. Standard Mk VII .303 inch cartridge for LeeEnfield rifle. [91][92] Also contributing to the total was the Rifle Factory Ishapore (RFI) at Ishapore in India, which continued to produce the SMLE in both .303 and 7.6251mm NATO until the 1980s, and is still manufacturing a sporting rifle based on the SMLE Mk III action, chambered for a .315 calibre cartridge[93] the Birmingham Small Arms Company factory at Shirley near Birmingham, and SAF Lithgow in Australia, who finally discontinued production of the SMLE Mk III* with a final 'machinery proving' batch of 1000 rifles in early 1956, using 1953-dated receivers. [95], The Brisbane-based Australian International Arms also manufactured a modern reproduction of the No. Talens, Martien. Charlie Wilson's War: The Extraordinary Story of the Largest Covert Operation in History, George Crile, 2003, Grove/Atlantic. Often the serial number . 5 was first issued to the British 1st Airborne Division and used during their liberation of Denmark and Norway in 1945. 3. We cannot say for certain it is a year, nor can we say for certain much of anything else about that number. That is a red flag to me. The rear of the bolt handle, bottom of the magazine . Go to. 2s Modified to Mk. I have no clue what this kind of gun is worth, I guess it is whatever someone will pay. 1 Mk. 4 Mk I, Britain had obviously settled on the rear aperture sight prior to WWI, with modifications to the SMLE being tested as early as 1911, as well as later on the No. 1 Enfield rifle was adopted by the United Kingdom in 1941. Armi Sport offers both a defarbed and (believe it or not) what they call a "farbed" version. . Turkey: converted Ottoman-captured rifles to 7.9257mm Mauser. Help with solving the question of dates and serial numbers 1 How can I look up my SMLE #... 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