Church, Ministry News You can unconditionally love someone. Sandy talked about over the years, other staff members coming to her after meeting with James McDonald in tears, just crushed. You did you have any idea that that this was out there, and might get aired? Gosh she is just filthy with gossip as fact and at very best half the story. Its a reference to sex magik and the leaders have given a hat tip to their god right in the church name. In June, he posted a picture with 2022 GOP gubernatorial nominee Kari Lake. I did not cover my iniquity. That would have been December I think 18th, 2018. . So for Jim McDonald to say that he didnt remember like, Im not buying it, right? 1) Julie Roys. Also, any comments with profanity, name-calling, and/or a nasty tone will be deleted. I agree. So let me let me take you to February I believe is February 12. Julie Roys is a veteran investigative reporter and founder of The Roys Report. Dan currently is an executive and leadership coach and the founder of Front Seat Leadership. So Rick was in the meeting, as were others, and they were defending saying the elders should not have the letters. And lets just, for people who dont know, tell them who Rick Donald is and the position he held and his relation to James McDonald. The Roys Report seeks to foster thoughtful and respectful dialogue. Its funny how things turn out, and this situation isnt wrapped up, yet. Send your questions about the Bible, ministry, or personal matters below. I remember saying we got to pray. I look back at those meetings. If youd like to find me online, just go to Julieroys.com. And then saying, I need a private jet to fly me home. Well, you know, we laugh about it. I called him. Ryan Visconti, the Arizona pastor platforming discredited celebrity preacher James MacDonald is attracting attention . How do you how do you do anything with 30 people? I thought the weight was dealing with everything else in there was a weight, but that was the weight. Can you say what was in that letter? Only Gods opinion is what counts. John MacArthur, for example, has preached, Scripture does not automatically permit divorce in the case of a physically abusive husband. Instead, MacArthur urges abused wives not to provoke any circumstances that will make your husband become violent. But if he continues to be abusive, The wife should remove herself from danger by fleeing the home if necessary.. The elder board of Harvest Bible Chapel formally apologized to independent journalist Julie Roys and several former members, months after joining founder James MacDonald in a defamation lawsuit accusing them of publishing false information about the church's management and finances last fall. Yeah. He says, Well, for when I kept silent my bones wasted through my groaning all day long for day and night, your hand was heavy upon me. And marital and sexual satisfaction plummet.. I remember that too. Shame on you for reading scripture! According to his email, MacDonald has been able to hire a small staff and encouraged people to sign up for his Home Church Networkvideo messages for people to use in a home church. So so sorry for anyone who has had to face the James MacDonald storm. I believe it was from Mancow who texted me. Dr. John Street, the head of counseling at MacArthurs The Masters University, takes a harder line. 28 Feb 2023 13:40:27 Yes, and I would add that baked into the command for husbands to love their wives is the definition of love in 1 Corinthians 13. Yeah. Jesus died on the cross for to take the weight of our sin so that we could be released from it. . I have them up at my website if you want to see those. Ill tell you on that Saturday, there were, we took a break, because it was a long meeting. This is a story that directly contradicts what MacDonald published in recent videos and statements on his webpage. It was a four hour meeting. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! Nearly 30 pages, innumerable charges between all those people, Julie, they served on the staff of Harvest Bible Chapel for somewhere between 40 and 50 years collectively. God will deal with him. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Bank Dismisses Foreclosure on James MacDonald's Estate After Settlement with Harvest. (Julie Roys) Eight years ago, prominent author and pastor, John MacArthur, strongly warned the Moody Bible Institute about its association with now-disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald. But I knew I needed to do it. I think of the timing, I think it was earlier that day, that I actually I sent I had sent Sandys letter out, because Sandy sent, she addressed her letter to the elder board. But according. Whats the point of arguing the point, you know, like, okay, youre gonna say you dont remember that part. He was an incredible communicator both orally and his deportment was engaging. . Judson is a top ranked Christian university providing a caring community and an excellent college experience. But like you do what that says and the people responded as you hope Christians do. Thank you for loving the Church and the Lord God Almighty, to take the hard but righteous way rather than the hard way. And Im just trying to smear him. Thank you. But he starts arguing process. And it was it was a battle in the natural, exposing James McDonald, the letters, the articles, everything. I remember talking and saying, guys, were all going to give an account to the Lord one day for what were doing in this meeting. And we were at a stalemate. We got to pray. So that we could live in freedom. The Lord made it really clear. Julie, are you saying that you support trans mutilation/murder of pre-born children/and are against conservatives? And so she sent me a letter before it went to the elder board. And this is when everything really started happening. It wasnt an easy thing to do. And we already know the answer: the men are in charge no matter what and despite their failings and abuses. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. I said, again, please dont do it just because Im asking you. I knew that I wasnt going to win any arguments in the room. 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James McDonald recently did a video with Ron Duitsman, as you said, former chairman of the elder board, where he claims this was all part of a campaign by Dallas Jenkins, whos a former executive leadership team member at Harvest. And I know it was a battle. I think of a few things Julie. Yes, I agree. Hi. And there were meetings on Wednesday, where James McDonald was informed of the decision of the elder board. I was literally sitting in a hotel lobby waiting for a pickup at one oclock in the morning to catch an overnight flight back from India. Its come to this. Six people who I doubt wherever actually all in the same room. Maybe some have on this platform for posting Julie has provided, but Ive never seen it. What is the point of bringing this pastors political views into the story? The Asbury Revival Is Over. I say this as a Christian who was taken to task by Christian doctors who told me of all sorts of cases that are not as the woman loved murdering her baby as many pro-life conservatives want everyone to believe. 2. Think Ill go preach at my cat nowhe has huge ears & better discernment than those willfully cowering in the open cage of the corporate state-church. You know, Ive been here the whole time. And a few days later James MacDonald's sons, Luke and . And the things that were done to them after they left. It was one of the big red flags to me, or I guess it was a yellow flag could have been a red flag, I wouldnt have done it. God does not value the sanctity of marriage more than the safety and sanity of individuals in that marriage.. Also, if youre in the market for a car, I encourage you to check out my friends at Marquardt of Barrington. And the demands that James McDonald made to try to go home a day early. Well, maybe it had approval by the executive elders, maybe it had approval by Fred Adams, who was the CFO at the time. And he conspired with these staff to bring these letters because they all just were out to get James. This wasnt anything else. Jesus help us. Thats even though MacDonalds former megachurch, Harvest Bible Chapel, disqualified MacDonald from public ministry in 2019 for a pattern of sinful behavior.. I said, Sandy, Im so sorry, for what happened on my watch. What really caused Harvest Bible Chapel to fire James MacDonald? Visconti also had posts supporting far-right causes. In our required Old and New Testament classes, we utilized the Oxford Annotated Bible. Im Julie Roys. After you guys. Others as well, who were defending and saying, well, the elders shouldnt even have these letters we had agreed, they go to the reconciliation team. I said, I will confess my transgression to the Lord, and you forgave the iniquity of my sin. 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And he was the elder who insisted that scathing letters written by former and current staff at Harvest actually reached the members of the board. Please dont read something into a story thats not there. That would be my word to Ron Duitsman. James MacDonald (@jamesmacdonald) June 14, 2021. The multi-campus Harvest Bible Chapel in greater Chicago along with founder James MacDonald, has slapped several former workers and independent journalist Julie Roys with a defamation lawsuit alleging the publication of false information about the church, its finances and governance that resulted in the loss of 2,000 members. James MacDonald, who was recently fired as senior pastor at Harvest Bible Chapel, is now facing an allegation of sexual misconduct by the church's former worship leader. And I sat down on the couch in my office and cried. Theres 30 men in the room. And everyone who stayed just drank the Kool-Aid. to Rick Donald. Plus, the school offers more than 60 majors, great leadership opportunities and strong financial aid. So Im deeply grateful for their faithful support. And there was a group and we had two prayer meetings of people who had been former elders, staff people who have gone on the record with me. Its impossible to take evangelicals seriously. And Stetzer is a huge, huge part of the crooked machine. On Thursday, the seventh, I got a text from one of the elders who said, Call me if you can before such and such a time. I think he might have and the reason I say that is that weekend, so you know, here we are on Tuesday, Tuesday, the fifth. Opinion: What is Revivaland is it Happening at Asbury? And I have, you know, probably probably six weeks later, less than, probably four weeks later or something I I apologized for signing that. The whole crooked machine needs to be brought down. You know, they asked him as an executive committee member and the elder board chairman. pretty rotten.. Then, referencing his arbitration with Harvest, in which he won about $2.5 million, along with all digital and physical assets of Walk in the Word, MacDonald writes: When we won the arbitration and regained access to our teaching ministry, it was in shambleslike a model plane that had flown so beautifully, being returned with report of a crash, when in reality an envious child had dashed it against the rocks just out of sight.. And then you know, you would categorize these things. She first came to my attention with James MacDonald, then with Ravi Zacharias, and now John McArthur plus one of his side-kicks is in her cross-hairs. That this wasnt just James failure. And I thought, well, I got to read the letter. Hes not qualified. We knew I needed to do it. Harvest Insider Tells What Really Happened with James MacDonald. Dan and his wife, Kim, subsequently left Harvest, but remain committed to the integrity of the Church and caring for those who have been hurt in the Church. And James, recently, in this video that he posted, said that there was an elder, in these meetings, he says, its very, very disparagingly who, who was holding his Bible and kept reading scripture. However, you did sign a letter of unconditional support. Were just talking a minute ago, you know, the emotion and the weight and the relief and the sadness, and all those things are true. Jennifer Had they reached all the elders at this point? And Dan said it was just so unnerving. This isnt phrased to have constructive conversation. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? Then pray for all of us. And Dean Butters letter came in that way as well. There was just an absolute refusal to rebuke him publicly. And in those letters like Jacob Ross, who was the bodyguard of James McDonald. Dan also was in numerous meetings with James McDonald prior to his firing. This man has been your pastor for decades. But I think it was And anyway, hes fired. And when I read that, I just shook my head. Thank you for taking the stand that you did. Ill tell you one thing, Julie. And that was the day that Mancow Muller aired these excerpts. Am I right? You can review it. I felt physically sick reading the letter. Leslie said: Julie Roys is a Christian investigative reporter who has called out some big names, and she has suffered for it. Were supposed to approve this budget, and we dont even have a line item. Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. No One Knows. And the pain is overwhelming. Judson is located on a beautiful 90 acre campus just 36 miles northwest of Chicago. I just know I got them. And so I felt relief. . I know James McDonald says it was a conference call. But he said when he and Scott Phelps and Barry Slebaugh went into a meeting with James in the summer of 2012, asking for, whats your salary James? What it really means to speak the truth in love, one post read. Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. And, again, this is five days after I published my expose of Harvest and World Magazine. And I dont know what his exact words were, but it was basically dont you dare read scripture to me. On February 13, the elders announced James MacDonald had been fired . Guest Bios Show Transcript Many times, those who have experienced spiritual abuse are retraumatized when they try to speak about whats happened. Again, only you and Mike Dunwoody, did that publicly. The audio recording that the elders reference was aired on popular Chicago radio personality Mancow Muller's show.Muller, once a trusted friend and confidant of MacDonald and also a member of Harvest Bible Chapel, has used his platform recently to call the pastor out on his less-than-exemplary handling of his critics. Also, any comments with profanity, name-calling, and/or a nasty tone will be deleted. And scripture is really clear that its got to be, you know, two or three witnesses. According to anindependent auditof Harvest Bible Chapel, disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, siphoned off millions in church funds to support his lavish lifestyle. I knew I had to do it. . And most of them, a number of them, Ill say, have not read any of these letters. I had asked one of the one of the people on the reconciliation team earlier that day, I said, Im going to go into a meeting with James McDonald and I need I need to have the letters I need to know. Thank you Jesus, Amen. Im not positive on that. And I stopped my car. And to give you the flavor of the meeting, when I walked in the room, and we all greeted each other, we were in the former executive pastors office around an oval table, and James McDonald sitting across from me. But its also an important podcast, because as you may know, James McDonald is aggressively trying to rewrite history and relaunch his ministry. And I had already written back to Executive Committee Chairman at the time and said, we cannot say unconditional support. Very sad situation for James and the elders as well. The fruit which was souls coming to Christ was enormous. She was a late comer to those of us who had been exposing MacD for a long time. And she immediately said, Ill write a letter. Hes asking for money. I know a lot of people look at this. But I had all I had all the letters by that point. And from the video that he recorded with James, it sounds like the spin is that James was actually guilty. Dominican Republic, a resort there and invited their wives to come with them. And and its sad to me other than when they did finally, the former elders apologize for the lawsuit that was brought against me. 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He also advertised an upcoming GrampCampan overnight retreat providing training and tools for grandparents to connect with their grandkids. And again, this was on the churchs dime. So thats why I think its so important to get the truth out there and to just keep speaking the truth. Again, James is is now saying, oh, all of that had approval. Thats right. To myself, I said, and do our job. What do you give, he would have been removed from Harvest, theres no doubt. Yet he notes that only a small number of former listeners responded positively. Others, who stumbled by the public deception sent many hateful words.. The marriage relationship has died. And I remember reading through that scripture and reading through Hebrews 13:17, about elders overseeing and giving an account, and Galatians 1:10 about am I trying to please man, am I trying to please God? And I hope I hope that a lot of people have read that and they dont owe me anything, but I hope its been healing to them. This is going amongst the elders now. I asked Sandy Song to potentially write a letter. And there was a voicemail from one of the pastors at Harvest, in a really sort of pushing for me to sign that put my name to that. She wanted me to look at it. I payed for you and James. And I dont know whether it was Rick Donald, who was was talking at that point about he had the letters, and didnt think that the elders should read all of them. Search my early tweet history. And at this point, the letters, what had happened with the letters? Pastor James MacDonald and Harvest Bible Chapel filed a lawsuit this month against two ex-members and former Moody Radio host Julie Roys, accusing them of spreading false information about the . And I hadnt I hadnt signed that yet, I hadnt given a statement yet. . SMH. For more information on Marquardt Buick go to buyacar123.com. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! Rather, its helping those in bondage find freedom. Maybe if the shoe was on the other foot and the men were the ones being abused we might hear them singing a different tune. Thats about my attitude lately. So this is going to be a fascinating podcast. According to The Elephant's Debt (TED), a blog critical of MacDonald that launched in the summer of 2012, MacDonald was then taking a salary over $500,000, and living on a $1.9 million estate. Subscribe here for Pastor James' twice-weekly email devotionals straight to you inbox, plus occasional updates regarding his ministries, events, and personal news. But according to a recent email by MacDonald, he's a victim of defamation by an "envious child"and needs your money "to rebuild." "Tragically . What what were you thinking? year. And I just asked the Holy Spirit to show me You have to show me You have to show me whats going on. Patient, kind, not self-seeking. Julie Roys October 8, 2020. You know, theres, I would say, round two, but I my guess is there were lots of small rounds in there, of people being silenced and bringing charges and, and the board looking the other way. And marital and sexual satisfaction plummet., We are meant to set aside power and authority and serve one another (Matthew 20:25-28) as we are partnered together (Ecclesiastes 4:9-12), Gregoire added. I see that as just simply implicating a larger group and a conspiracy to use church money for stuff that was never intended. I also knew that I needed to talk enough so that it wasnt like, well, this whats whats going on with him? And I know its cost you personally. What Happens Now? And I knew that I needed to do something publicly. According to an independent audit of Harvest Bible Chapel, disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, siphoned off millions in church funds to support his lavish lifestyle. I acknowledge my sin to you. Hi. Receive E-Devotionals and Ministry Updates. Yeah. And you then forwarded them to the elder board. Gosh she is just filthy with gossip as fact and at very best half the story. To donate, click here. His support of Kari Lake shows that he supports her lies. I had, of course, people from Harvest who had heard it, sending me sending me clips. According to Harvest Bible Chapel pastor James McDonald, former Moody Radio host Julie Roys and bloggers Ryan Mahoney and Scott Bryant published and helped publicize false and damaging financial . If hes ok with lying it places doubt on the gospel. Instead of focusing on who is stronger and who is weaker, why dont we focus on how both of us can be strong for the kingdom and live out the calling that God has given to each of us individually and as a couple?, Visconti also posted recently on his Instagram story that abuse is not a biblical justification for divorce. No, Im just reporting. It was really it was a painful meeting, it was a was an eye opening meeting as well though. 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