radiolab inheritance transcript

I wonder how much you believe in it. ROBERT: [laughs] "This may hurt you my son, but I'm doing it for my grandchildren.". What's he talking about? Test the outer edges of what you think you know. So we did stop. Were just talking about toad, I thought. This is from 2002. Filled with dozens of letters from women that she's paid. KARIN BORGKVIST LJUNG: She was born 1904 and this is OLOV BYGREN: Everything happening in the family KARIN BORGKVIST LJUNG: Nelson, he was an idiot. ROBERT: Including a particular amphibian that plays a very big part in this story. Anyhow, so you got this guy, Paul Kammerer, who's good with animals. See, this is the story of science that doesn't get told. SAM KEAN: But this was a really, really tough place to grow up. If you were a boy in verkalix between the ages of 9 and 12 years old, that's the window, 9 to 12, you're a boy, and then we have one of those terribly rough winters, and you're eating much less than normal. It's a little odd, actually. Yes. ROBERT: So, somehow, by some chemical mechanism, starving grandpa, back when he was about 9 to 12 years old, turned out to be a good thing. Peanut butter, there we go. CARL ZIMMER: And in1923, he actually comes to England. JAD: But were gonna play you stories where JAD: This is Radiolab. What can't you? I initially felt very hopeful and excited about this research because it seems to suggest that a body, one body can respond to an environment and change and be flexible in a way we didn't think was possible. He had one remaining midwife toad. I know! FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: He had no idea about DNA. LYNN PALTROW: Are there people whose drug use is so out of control they can't parent? PAT: And she told Barbara, "There's something you need to know about this baby.". [ARCHIVAL Clip, News: Barbara Harris's solution is simpler than anything else out there. Radiolab is on YouTube! CHARLOTTE ZIMMER: Radiolab is supported in part by the National Science Foundation and CHARLOTTE and VERONICA ZIMMER: The Alfred P. Sloan Foundation. Go to him. OLOV BYGREN: Looking for patterns in cardiovascular diseases, high blood pressure, and such. Nobody has a right to do that to a baby. Yeah, there you go. Who, together, pledged more than $150,000 to her program.]. No, I've only had somebody call and say they regret that they didn't stay on birth control. ", PAT: In other words, "Could I pay women who have drug problems to stop having babies?". If you're a starving boy between 9 to 12 years old, now it doesn't matter a whole lot what happens to you after this, your grandchildren will have one-quarter the risk of heart disease. Plus, find other cool things we did in the past like miniseries, music videos, short films and animations, behind-the-scenes features, Radiolab live shows, and more. I want to start with a parental day dream for a second. ROBERT: Because the Soviets, they believe in Karl Marx's idea that human beings were an improvable species, that if you can change the conditions around people, you change the people. Three of them ended up in other foster homes and seem to have done pretty well, but one of them DESTINY HARRIS: Okay, well of them, don't really know what happened to her. I mean like, with the licking, is it a teaching thing where, you know, the babies become good mothers because FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: They've seen it and they've repeated the experience. ], [ARCHIVAL Clip, Panel: Sterilized? JAD: And thats wrong [laughs].Thats not how it works. We talked to her for a little while and PAT: At a certain point the social worker pulls out a stack of papers. It takes a while. The show in in the radiolab eye sky transcript of was interested in his life In And bring the eye Amount of long-distance Runners and they had a Radiolab podcast about it and they. And she says, one day, this idea just came to her. They decided to explore this question, They thought, "Let's just see if we can figure out how it is the rat mothers pass down their parenting skills?". Move on to the next cage yes, no? ROBERT: Just for those years. Baby, be careful. So he's got to live his life as a toad with all this baggage on him? But that you supposedly can't get to. PAT: Did that scare you at all? RADIOLAB Podcast "Inheritance" Homework Assignment Name: Rohan Desai PSUID: 9 6241 8529 Listen to the first three stories of the "Inheritance" Radiolab Podcast (Control + click on link to access podcast. The next stage, yes, no? I agree with Lynn, that this program does perpetuate a stereotype. I wonder. ROBERT: Thats what Darwin says, you cant. My name is Jean Kean. JAD: Still, that's a burden that, he's carrying a big burden there. Although, you know, sometimes that your grandfather's suffering helps you. On the one hand, she says, immediately, cheques started arriving. DESTINY HARRIS: Not been born at all. Not usually because it upsets people and I'm Canadian. ROBERT: Well, so here's the thing. You mean, if you had a starving grandfather, you would be a healthier boy for the because you had a starving grandfather? He thought it worked with humans, too. Harris says her program, children requiring a caring community, or CRACK], Can prevent thousands of unwanted births to drug-addicted women. They both say that they actually often forget that they're not biologically related. Over the past five years, if you look at our tax return. People can't just will themselves into a more perfect form. Nobody's arguing that women should do drugs when they're pregnant. And again, Barbara thinks, "Come on, but if this little girl is here, she should be with her brother and sister. I could have turned out like some of the other kids. It's such a surprising result. ], This could mean sterilization, it could mean getting an IUD.]. It says, "Race of Supermen." That kind of 30 years? I mean, the idea that they could be constrained by their DNA, that maybe one of us gave them a bit of DNA thats gonna hold them back? PAT: And she says, one day, this idea just came to her. At the Vivarium, as the name suggests, they have live animals. You know? A couple of days later, I had already bonded with her so much, it was as if I gave birth to her. FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: I mean, when you think of Kammerer, there was a report in science outlining a theory about how Kammerer's toads got these characteristics FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: that invoked these epigenetic inheritance and imprinted genes and it made it plausible. But the story he told us begins around 25 years ago. And well just let the old yahoos from whom we inheritedededed inherited it take it away. It's against the rules. They lived longer lives, something like 30 years on average. More information about Sloan at. CARL ZIMMER: She is nine. More what kind of stuff? You're not leaving this hospital unless you have long-term birth control.". JAD: I find myself thinking like, Okay, I know these kids have their genes half from me, half from my wife. Tell me what your image of a drug-using pregnant woman is. You can't change your DNA. Radiolab is a radio program produced by WNYC, a public radio station in New York City, and broadcast on public radio stations in the United States. OLOV BYGREN: Methylations, phosphorylation, and so on. By all accounts a pretty good-looking guy. They willed the neck to get longer, the muscles to get bigger. And the incredible thing is, those marks stick around. US $53.6 Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for VCM II Main Cable VCM2 16pin Cable VCM 2 OBD2 Cable VCM ii IDS V101 Data Cable at the best online prices at Free shipping for many products She got one. Right away, people accused her of targeting women at their weakest moment and enabling their drug abuse. Find ratings and reviews for the newest movie and TV shows. And these effects, in fact, were so strong that you could trace it to the grandfather. Let me say this again. Well, yep, that is so true. ROBERT: Is that what you're saying? You just have to weigh it, is it worth it? ROBERT: According to Darwin, life and changes are ruled by chance. CARL ZIMMER: More information about Sloan at JAD: Yeah, we're exploring questions of lwhat can you pass down to your kids and their kids? It would be wrong to think that they represent all women who use drugs while they're pregnant. PAT: Isaiah would sleep and he would scream. Transcripts and recorded audio may be available for many of the programs you hear on WNYC. The show is known for innovative sound design, smashing information into music. Suddenly you're marked. Well, he thought it might have been an assistant trying to frame him because he was Jewish. Well, it was a zoo where there was all sorts of experiments going on. Once a kid is born, their genetic fate is pretty much sealed. DESTINY HARRIS: Our staff includes Alan Horn, Soren Wheeler, Pat Walters DESTINY HARRIS: With help from Matt Kielty, Chris [unintelligible 01:04:17], PAT'S DAD: And Kenny [unintelligible 01:04:18], PAT: Special thanks to Martin [unintelligible 01:04:21]. But the results are very clear. Sample Page; ; That, in a sort of ass backward way was Michael's question. JAD: So its like grandpa's struggle is jumping forward and giving me a leg up? He works at the Karolinska Institute in Sweden where he studies population data. PAT: The way she saw it, the state, the federal government, somebody BARBARA HARRIS: Should say, "You're not doing this. 01:04:34 - Once a kid is born, their genetic fate is pretty much sealed. Full disclosure, she's Robert's sister's partner. Yeah. That you can, somehow, by just being nice to them, reading them stories, or whatever, that you can somehow break them free of all that. It was this struggle for a few years. ROBERT: Which turn out to be an interesting thing to look at it because the people in verkalix who were farming SAM KEAN: Trying to eke a living out of the soil. And at a time when you're not making the best decisions anyway. The cheapest estimate is the work that needs to be done in 14 days. BARBARA HARRIS: No, I've only had somebody call and say they regret that they didn't stay on birth control. Well, its offensive. PAT: As Barbara made the rounds on the daytime talk shows, the reaction was split right down the middle. I said, "No, no, that's okay." So the great rat nightmare comes true where the females become their mothers. JAD: If they see methyl groups sitting on that bit of DNA, they are pissed. He thought that you could kind of engineer societies by changing the environment. ], Like you said, when you were in your addiction like she is], I didn't say I'm God. SAM KEAN: Darwin's theory would have said, you know, 90% of the toads are going to die. Who are they? But a year later, the social worker called again. How much of you will echo into the future and how much of you won't? LATIF: Still, still standing. One-fourth? LULU: So far. [ARCHIVAL Clip, Daytime Talkshow: You know what they're going to go do with that money. OLOV BYGREN: It was very interesting discovery. And when it came time to mate, the males and the females, they would mate in the water. It seemed to have been passed down for multiple generations. Because when a woman uses heroin while she's pregnant, the fetus gets hooked on it too. So by now it's 1994, and Barbara is thinking You know? JAD: Plus, you know, Lamarck didn't get all the biological details right. JAD: Everybody we talked to seems to think there's something really interesting going on here. Lots of money. Yeah, thats it. LULU: Yeah, thats it. DESTINY HARRIS: I do mean that. Okay, well of them, don't really know what happened to her. JAD: Thats just the cold logic of Darwinian evolution. MICHAEL MEANEY: So the great rat nightmare comes true where the females become their mothers. Yeah. The little baby that we keep hearing in the background of everything. Well, I mean, Hitler thought that if you were Jewish, that you had given up the right to be a mother and hed sterilize people as well. ], [ARCHIVAL CLIP, BARBARA HARRIS: I'm going to go out into the streets and offer addicted women money to use birth control. But wouldnt it be nice if thats how it worked? JAD: Serotonin gets into the brain cells, and according to Michael unleashes MICHAEL MEANEY: A whole series of molecular events inside the cell. So its like grandpa's struggle is jumping forward and giving me a leg up? DESTINY HARRIS: Yes. Then choose either Section II OR Section III and answer all questions in that . She and I snuck away from the children into her office. ROBERT: A few years later, there'd be a harsh winter. I had a little basketball for her. And one of them is called the thyroid system. JAD: Many years later, he and this woman. I don't like to upset people. You're obviously a great mom, but that feels cold to me. Barbara says they've reached out to her many times but they never heard back. BARBARA HARRIS: Barbara Harris. Each stone represents a radioisotope by means of a. These are women who love their children, who sought help. JAD: Well think about what makes proteins. JAD: [expletive] That was awesome. So they can grab onto the female and hold tight while they're mating. ROBERT: So then the one that's in trouble, so thats one of one of eight? One time, and I'm on flighter. At this really marvelous place called the Vivarium. They both say that they actually often forget that they're not biologically related. JAD: In any case, what they saw at the end of all this counting wasWell, first of all, what they saw was this pattern that rat pups who got licked a lot as babies, when they grew up, they licked their babies a lot and the rat pups who didn't get licked a lot, when they grew up, they didn't lick their babies. If Barbara had gotten to Destiny's birth mom, Destiny, Kalia, this moment, none of it would exist. And looking at these swings in fortune, Olov realized what he had here was Because with all this data, he and his team could follow families forward in time, through the generations. SAM KEAN: It seemed to have been passed down for multiple generations. And in one day, we can imagine, he gets curious. When I started spending some time with Destiny, Barbara's 22-year-old daughter. They willed the neck to get longer, the muscles to get bigger. They could eat twice, three times as much. PAT: But at that point just two of the six boys were living at home, Brian and Rodney. Well, I just want to eliminate drug-addicted babies from being born. As a parent, you are a tiny blip in a very, very, long story. He actually named his daughter Lacerta, which is a genus of lizard. Full disclosure, she's Robert's sister's partner. This lady right here is still taking drugs and she could be pregnant again next month.]. PEJK MALINOVSKI: It's not very politically correct, huh? Move on to the next cage yes, no? FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: You have to look at one cage, say, are they licking? JAD: The sneaky idea here is that the blacksmiths, the giraffes, they made it happen. To her, I matter. ROBERT: Cause we were talking to science writer, Carl Zimmer, and he told us that back in the early 1900s, this tension between Lamarck and Darwin got extra tense. Looking for patterns in cardiovascular diseases, high blood pressure, and such. CARL ZIMMER: Well, there was an expert on reptiles named G. Kingsley Noble. Or is it? BARBARA HARRIS: I mean, I'm married to a Black man. I'm Sam Kean's dad. Isaiah would sleep and he would scream. KARIN BORGKVIST LJUNG: Jans Olaf, Hanna Kaiser, Heinrik Venvei. LULU: In a very real way, weve been thinking a lot about inheritance. Anyways, God bless you. BARBARA HARRIS: And I was a waitress, I worked for IHOP for over 30 years. No, she was an oops kid. PAT: This, of course, is Destiny. And since Kammerer kept the heat up, toads basically had to stay there, in this watery place that they had not evolved for. You got to kick it back. LYNN PALTROW: The women who I've worked with, who've had a history of drug problems, aren't like the examples that she gives. I'm almost done. PAT: Because the truth is, you have no idea how these kids are going to turn out. Yes, he was retarded. I asked Barbara about some of the things that she'd said because, to be totally honest, they kind of turn my stomach. I wont say too much more except it includes one of my favorite kind of scientific parables that like Ive ever heard. PAT: Yeah. 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