A man tells another man that he will give the man a video of him killing the man's ex-wife and raping her (as he is saying this we see black and white clips of the man, 20 years younger, ripping the underwear off a woman and then choking her); the man begs the other man to stop and the other man explains that he will produce a signed confession for the murder of the man's wife, as well as the man's kidnapping, if he solves a riddle, but if he is unable to solve the riddle, he will murder the man's daughter; the man forces the other man to watch footage of a woman being tortured and a man is shown standing behind her (as if to rape her) while the woman is bound and gagged. Lee Woo-jin shoots himself after convincing himself that revenge was all he wanted out of life, thus preventing him from ever moving on and forever locking his life to the past, and Oh Dae-su tries to make himself stay with his daughter in an attempt to make himself ignorant of the painful truth. He refuses but takes her business card. I finally watched the South Korean version. [14] Firth later passed on the role,[15] which was later offered to Clive Owen. Korean version killed American version. The role was the motel prison captor who, in Parks film, gets his hand chopped off; remember him? This write-up will be chock full of spoilers which will save you a lot of time and money. That release is all a part of the game as the world is essentially a bigger prison the captor has trapped their prisoner in. "[35], Justin Chang of Variety said that "Lee and Protosevich have made a picture that, although several shades edgier than the average Hollywood thriller, feels content to shadow its predecessor's every move while falling short of its unhinged, balls-out delirium. Perhaps it is an attempt to make us show more empathy towards those around us, and to not be so rash as to act out on those emotions that would demand for us to seek revenge. Become a member of our premium site for just $1/month & access advance reviews, without any ads, not a single one, ever. The big problem with Lee's "Oldboy" is that for all its dark confidence, it doesn't reimagine the original boldly enough.This isn't like Martin Scorsese's "Cape Fear," David Cronenberg's "The Fly" or Jonathan Demme's "The Manchurian Candidate"or the recent superhero-inflected version of "Carrie," which I liked better than most criticsall of which drastically rethought their inspirations. Two men read a newspaper article about a man who had died in a car accident with his wife. Having fulfilled his revenge plot that was so long in the making, Lee Woo-jin takes his own life feeling that he is now finally satisfied. Instead, Lee decided that everyone should live happily ever after; therefore, Doucett ends up with a fortune and sends a share of it to help his daughter start her life over, telling her hell never see her again. After he is suddenly released, he goes on a mission to find the person responsible for his imprisonment, later discovering that his life is still caught in conspiracy and torment. The heinous act is recorded and used as leverage against Joe. Furthermore, every meal comes with at least one bottle of vodka, Joes drink of choice. These rumors combined with the "phantom pregnancy" that Lee Woo-jin says his sister developed lead to her eventual suicide. He had imagined that she did kill herself, after the bad mouth from the others (including Oh Dae-su, that's why the revenge). In the 2003 film, Oh Dae-su is being tracked by a bug located in the sole of his shoe. [21] The film marked Jackson's first time working with director Lee since 1991's Jungle Fever. Samuel L. Jackson as a whiney hired-hand begging not to be tortured was just boring and under utilized his talents. I wont go into the other levels of failure and why it didnt work, but it was pretty bad in conveying any sort of story within the fighting like Parks fight scene achieved. As humans, we are prone to a plethora of emotions throughout our lives. He compiles a list of all those who would want to imprison him, and writes letters to eventually give to Mia. As a man writes a letter, we hear his voiceover read it to his daughter and he explains that he did not kill his ex-wife, his daughter's mother. I find it hard to believe Spike Lee could adapt this film for an American audience. Reassure the child that you know they will have a hard time with the day, but that it's okay to be sad sometimes. Watch Oldboy: Josh Brolin Transformation (Featurette). However, any commercial reproduction of anything appearing within this site is both illegal and in really bad taste and we will take action |more|. A man lightly kisses his wife on the cheek. It is intentionally left vague if the phantom pregnancy was what happened or if that is just what Lee Woo-jin said to hide himself from his past actions and the possibility of actually causing his sister to become pregnant. We learn that a man and a woman that have been shown having sex are father and daughter and that neither were aware of their relationship when they engaged in sex, but the man is disgusted and horrified when it is revealed and he is forced to watch clips of CCTV footage of him having sex with his own adult daughter. A man coaxes a mouse into captivity and we then see the mouse with ten baby mice; the man is extremely happy and tells the mouse never to leave; the man wakes up later and the mouse is missing causing him to panic and shout, a tray is slid under the door and he finds the mouse, dead and surrounded by its dead babies with a smear of blood on the plate; the man cries and appears inconsolable. Did you know that theres a Bollywood remake of Oldboy? If you think what we do is worthwhile, please donate or become a member, Remake of the 2003 Korean revenge thriller about a man (Josh Brolin) who was kidnapped and held captive in a motel room for twenty years. RELATED: If You Liked 'Parasite', Check Out These 20 Other Great South Korean Films. Crushed, humiliated, and in unimaginable pain, Oh Dae-su lies on the floor of the penthouse broken as Lee Woo-jin descends the elevator. Like. "[38], "Justin Lin Talks 'Fast & Furious 4' Gig and 'Oldboy' Departure", "Will Smith Says Oldboy Won't be Adaptation of Chan-wook Park's Film", "Will Smith Definitely Starring In 'Oldboy,' Says Steven Spielberg Film Won't Be A Remake", "Old Boy Publisher Sues Korean Studio Over U.S. Film Rights", "Will Smith & Steven Spielberg's Old Boy DEAD! Mi-do relates it to a time when she was alone on the subway and saw a human-sized ant in the same car as her. That scene, however, along with much of Mr. Lee's initial, three-hour cut, was trimmed by the studio to make the final version'srun time. The way Oh Daesu pleads, the cutting of his own tongue, were powerful in a way that Spike Lee underestimated. In Oldboy 2013, Joe stares at an octopus in a fish tank. I, think this is a revenge film, just Lee's revenge film. The second film in Park Chan-wooks Vengeance trilogy back in 2003, Oldboy is the one most associated with the director's success. Both films are based on Shinichi Got being imprisoned for 10 years in the manga, but the 2003 film increases that time period to 15 years while the 2013 remake doubles it to 20. As a result, Arthur moved them to Luxembourg, but later murdered his wife and Amanda, severely wounded Adrian and committed suicide. Joe tortures Chaney into confessing that the Stranger arranged for his imprisonment. The father, who was not identified, was notified . Oh Dae-Su (Choi Min-Sik) has never taken his role as husband and father seriously and has just been released from police custody for drunk and disorderly behaviour on his own baby daughter's birthday. What drives Lee Woo-jin to imprison Oh Dae-su for so long in Oldboy 2003 is that Dae-su tells his best friend, Joo-hwan, about Lee Woo-jin and his sister, Lee Soo-ah, having sex with each other back in high school. Joe sees a news report that says his ex-wife Donna was raped and murdered and he is the prime suspect, while their infant daughter Mia was adopted. REVIEWS Obsessed with vengeance, a man sets out to find out why he was kidnapped and locked into solitary confinement for twenty years without reason. There you have it! The story follows a hopeless alcoholic named Joe, who's mysteriously kidnapped in 1993 and held hostage in a sparsely furnished room for the next 20 years. Essay by Brian Eggert March 23, 2009. A man is seen shirtless nearly throughout the movie, we see his bare back and chest and he wears only boxer-style underwear. He looks into the yearbook and the name says "Adrian Pryce". The second major fail was the casting of Samuel L. Jackson in a role that was not right for him. Oldboy is a 2013 American neo-noir action thriller film directed by Spike Lee and written by Mark Protosevich. Later that day, his meal arrives on a silver platter, and the mouse and her dead babies are revealed to be inside cooked with garnish for Joe. THE ASSIGNED NUMBERS The father of Arthur Labinjo-Hughes and his girlfriend have been jailed for the six-year-old's killing. The tongue of Chucky, Joes best friend, is sent to him as a gift instead in Oldboy 2013. The love that blossoms between Mi-Do and Oh Dae-Su is not as romantic as it seems anymore, not when they are father and daughter. Joe goes to his friend Chucky, and explains what has transpired. [27] It was the last film to be distributed by the company, before Focus Features absorbed the company in October 2013. VIOLENCE/GORE 9 - A man walks into his teenage daughter's bedroom and as she goes to unbutton her shirt in a suggestive manner (please see the Sex/Nudity category for more details), the man shoots her in the chest with a shotgun (the force of the impact sends the girl backwards and we see a spray of blood hit the wall); the man leaves the room and shoots a woman in the torso (we see blood spray from behind the woman and a large, gory hole is shown in the woman's stomach); the man then walks into another room where his teenage son unbuckles his pants in a suggestive manner (please see the Sex/Nudity category for more details) and the man shoots the teen boy in the chest and shoulder (the impact blows the teen boy backward and blood and gore spray from the wound); the man cocks the gun again and shoots himself in the head (blood and gore spray from his head, almost half his skull is shot off and his dead body collapses on top of the teen boy). We hear a squishing crunching noise, which we learn is a man fatally smashing another man in the face with a hammer; we see as the man smashes the hammer into a second man's face, a spray of blood leaves the man's head as his nose bridge caves in from the hammer, and the man walks over to a third man and cleaves the claw portion of the hammer into his head (we see the man's eyes bug out and blood pours from the wound as the man slumps over and blood pools under the man's head). 'Oldboy' Ending Explained: Is Revenge Really Worth It? This then leads to Arthur aiming his shotgun, and shooting . We welcome suggestions & criticisms -- and we will accept compliments too. While he recovers, Marie is taken emotionally by Joe's letters to Mia, and offers to help him further. Yes he just takes himself out of the picture. Image from Oldboy (2013) The original Korean made 2003 Oldboy was a gripping tale of mystery, anger, and revenge with a horrifying twist that would make anyone cringe. A man is seen with yarn wrapped around his waist and legs, pinning him to a table and a metal knitting needle stuck through each hand and into the table (we see blood on the needles and from the hand wounds); another man stands over him holding a box cutter to the man's neck, where a series of dashes have been drawn with a permanent marker and the man tells the pinned down man that he is planning on cutting enough of the man's neck that he will be able to rip off the man's head with his bare hands; the man with the box cutter cuts into the man's neck, throwing the bloody pieces into a trash can and as he continues to cut, the man pauses and pours salt into the wounds, followed by water; the torturer is interrupted when another man knocks on the door and the torturer leads the man out of the room (blood is pouring from the man's wound-covered neck) and we see the torturer holding the box cutter to the man's neck as he walks through a crowd of other men. In the manga, Shinichi Got has the tracking device buried in his back near his right shoulder blade that Eri has to dig out with a knife. In Oldboy 2003, Oh Dae-su is a troublesome drunk that is arrested for his behavior on his daughter's fourth birthday. Apart from bringing new life to 2003's Oldboy in Spike Lee's remake, Brolin and Olsen's pairing are at the center of the Thanos and Scarlet Witch beef, which was one of the most anticipated confrontations during the MCU's Avengers era. Also with Samuel L. Jackson, Elizabeth Olsen, Michael Imperioli, Sharlto Copley and Pom Klementieff. In 2013's Oldboy remake, Joe masturbates to a woman using a thigh master in Oldboy 2013 and its stretched out to have them groan and mutter, Yeah, to each other awkwardly. The entire point of revenge is that it is supposed to bring a level of satisfaction towards those who achieve it, however Oldboy makes it clear that the satisfaction brought out from revenge is not a feeling worth chasing. However, Adrian asks Joe to think why he had let Joe go in the first place, and shows that the interview with Mia was all a set-up, and "Mia" was a paid actress. A man beats his head against a wall. That leaves Lee's film as the lone true Oldboy remake, although it also contains a lot of notable differences. Liar, Liar (Between Father and Daughter) VHS Lifetime Movie Canadian Full Andrew Spannaus 2.23K subscribers Subscribe 1.2K Share Save 162K views 6 years ago A Canadian little girl notorious for. It is the single most important goal that fuels all of their actions, and it is the centerpiece upon which the entire film is built around. [3][4] In November 2008, DreamWorks and Universal were securing the rights to the remake, which Will Smith had expressed interest in starring, with Steven Spielberg as director. In a way, this has provided a blueprint for how series/movies use incest for plot twists in more recent media. Of course, Oh Dae-su reaches for the remote, but upon pressing it he finds out that the remote actually turns on a loudspeaker that plays audio of him and Mi-do having sex. Its been a little over a day since I saw both versions of Oldboy one by Spike Lee and one by Park Chan-wook back to back. It's never revealed who Oh Dae-su really is to her. This American version of Park Chan-Wook's Korean thriller is Lee's most exciting movie since Inside Mannot a masterpiece by any stretch, but a lively commercial genre picture with a hypnotic, obsessive quality, and an utter indifference to being liked, much less approved of. Joe hides Marie in a hotel for her safety, and they end up having sex, unaware Adrian is watching through hidden cameras. Chaney: I swear, I don't know nothin'! After finding that he has been framed for murder he sets out for revenge and vindication. Perhaps this saved us from seeing Joe Doucett as incestuous AND a pedophile compared to just being incestuous. Also, Josh Brolins character didnt gain any sympathy like the Korean protagonist. DISCUSSION TOPICS - Consequences, revenge, regret, alcoholism, guilt, incest, divorce, shame, reparations, finding peace, resolution, disappointment, murder-suicides. Though I will give props to Josh Brolin for his work as an actor during the reveal. Director Spike Lee Cast Josh Brolin Elizabeth Olsen Samuel L. Jackson Sharlto Copley Michael Imperioli Lance Reddick So they remade Oldboy. By removing the begging, Lee was able to completely skip over the epic tongue cutting because, you know, an American audience couldnt handle that. A washed up alcoholic is kidnapped and imprisoned in a single room by his unseen captors for 20 years. Lee Woo-jins revenge comes in the form of hypnotizing both Oh Dae-su and Mi-do to fall in love with each other, but due to being in prison for 15 years Oh Dae-su doesnt recognize that Mi-do is his now adult daughter. LANGUAGE 8 - About 32 F-words and its derivatives, 14 sexual references, 12 scatological terms (1 mild), 6 anatomical terms, 46 mild obscenities, name-calling (old man, big boy, fiend, freak), 2 religious profanities (GD), 7 religious exclamations (e.g. You must tell your daughter both that you were . It's a question that, while seemingly easy to answer on the surface, provides some strong conflicting emotions when presented more directly into our lives. It is almost always better to face the truth, but that is easier said than done when the truth brings you so much pain. InParks Oldboy, this is the point where Dae-su begs his heart out. Jesus H. Christ, God, Oh My God, Jesus, Jesus Christ). The scene isnt meant to be sexual, but more of a means of feeling something from another human being. The knife is stabbed in Joes back at the end of the fight compared to Oh Dae-su getting stabbed closer to the middle. Director Park Chan-wook Cast Choi Min-sik, Yu Ji-tae, Kang Hye-jeong, Yun Jin-seo, Kim Byeong-ok, Yoon Jin-seo Rated R Runtime 120 min. What Happened To Spike Lee's Mookie After Do The Right Thing? To the first question: He realized he killed his sister (and lover). I swear before God and eight motherfuckin' white people! Why were they there? Adrian congratulates him, giving him the diamonds and escorting him to where Mia is. Next:Why Zombie Scarlet Witch Cant Defeat Ultron (But Wanda Could Beat Thanos), Oldboy: The 2013 Movie Biggest Differences From The Original, Malcolm X True Story: What Spike Lee's Movie Changes & How Accurate It Is. Synopsis: Joe Doucett, an advertising executive, is kidnapped and held prisoner for twenty years in solitary confinement. That said, it's incorrect to labelthe Oldboy remake a bad movie. Before he passes out, he sees a woman with a yellow umbrella. Chaney is basically both characters while Adrians bodyguard is a woman named Haeng-bok; she has very few lines and doesnt do much besides fight and hold an umbrella. And while bettering himself in the process he aims to find out why he endured his confinement. Most of the hotel sequences are similar, but he doesnt just eat Chinese food: hes fed milk, Frosted Flakes, and even a microwaveable burrito, among other things. "One of the 50 Coolest Websitesthey simply tell it like it is" - TIME, The current economic climate has reduced our revenues. Im shocked you complained about spoilers Mike, since I figured you cant even read. From then, he loses consciousness, only to find himself in prison with a trap-door for food and a TV, which tells him that he murdered his wife. Know when new reviews are published We will never sell or share your email address with anybody and you can unsubscribe at any time, We will never sell or share your email address with anybody and you can unsubscribe at any time, Whitney Houston: I Wanna Dance with Somebody. Related:Why Park Chan-wook Has Disowned His Debut The Moon Is The Sun's Dream. The film does not necessarily give a direct message to be learned, except perhaps to be wary of how revenge can completely ruin another person's life as well as your own. What the what!? Lee Woo-jin then states that hell kill Mi-do if Oh Dae-su cant figure out who he is after five days have passed. "It's not one shot," Mr. Lee said. This thriller is not available on all streaming platforms, so let me tell you where to watch Oldboy 2003. Adrian Doyle Pryce adds more rewards to Joes release in Oldboy 2013. Get off the author dick Josephine mike gave his opinion but I guess you have the right to dickeat smh. It stars Josh Brolin, Elizabeth Olsen, and Sharlto Copley. It triggers what should normally be a happy ending where the protagonist gets with their love interest, which in turn makes viewers all the more unsettled when it sinks in that they are being emotionally manipulated to be happy for this incestuous relationship. But when he removes a knife from his back, he squeals and squeals and squeals. On return to Chucky's bar, Joe finds the Stranger there with the woman with the yellow umbrella, his bodyguard Haeng-Bok. MESSAGE - Revenge can drive people to extremes. Additionally, Oh Dae-su is given five days to figure out Lee Woo-jins identity to coincide with the death of Lee Soo-ah. We see a woman wearing brief-style underwear while a man is above her, he appears as though is he going to rape her; they are interrupted and we see the man leave as he smacks the woman on the backside before walking away and the woman pulls up her pants in a panic (please see the Violence/Gore category for more details). As a result, the real revenge plot was to subliminally get Oh Dae-su to fall in love with his own daughter, who was only four when he disappeared. The street vendor Joe buys the rubber duck from is wearing angel wings, which references Oh Dae-sus birthday present to his daughter in Oldboy 2003. A woman reads a man a message that she had taken from another man: the message instructs the man to "stay away" from the other man's sister and the man listening to the message makes a crude gesture implying that the woman had large breasts. "[36] Michael Phillips of The Chicago Tribune, in a one and a half star review noted that "The revenge in Oldboy is neither sweet nor sour; it's just drab". Become a member of our premium site for just $2/month & access advance reviews, without any ads, not a single one, ever. The plot for Zinda is almost identical to the storyline of Oldboy. A man holding a box cutter fights off a group of 10+ and we see in slow-motion as the man kicks, punches and stabs his way through the men who all fall to the ground; the man runs into a second group of 10+ men and he punches, kicks and stabs his way through the second group of men, until he is stabbed in the back and he comes upon a third group of 10+ men in a cargo elevator who are covered in blood, lying in various positions in the elevator and one man with a sword through his chest is shoved to the ground by the man with the knife in his back; the man pulls the knife from his back and collapses to the ground as he crawls outside where a man and a woman pick him up and put him in a car, and then dump him outside a bar; we see the man recovering later as a doctor tells a woman that the man had been stabbed countless times and one of the wounds was centimeters from being fatal (a small amount of blood is seen on a bandage and bruising on his torso). Chaneys bleached Mohawk pays homage to Mr. Han. Parker was later replaced by James Ransone, due to a scheduling conflict. It is a remake of Park Chan-wook 's 2003 South Korean film of the same name, and follows a man who searches for his captors after being mysteriously imprisoned for twenty years. If you get hit by a 24 plank of wood, doesnt it hurt? We've gone through several editorial changes since we started covering films in 1992 and older reviews are not as complete & accurate as recent ones; we plan to revisit and correct older reviews as resources and time permits. Stoker Trailer Starring Nicole Kidman and Mia . And if youre keeping track at home, both versions (American and Korean) are based on the Japanese manga of the same name by Garon Tsuchiya and Nobuaki Minegishi. and instead of just one person committing suicide the dad shoots his daughter . Im also assuming that my readers have seen the original, Korean version of Oldboy. A man grabs a woman's upper thigh and makes a series of crude remarks asking her to have sex with him; the woman promptly turns him down and her husband overhears and is visibly upset with the other man (please see the Violence/Gore category for more details). If so, too bad. Throughout the duration of the film we find out that the person targeting Oh Dae-su is a man by the name of Lee Woo-jin (Yoo Ji-tae) who is getting revenge on him for causing the death of his sister. Dear (Lousy) Mother, First, don't be so quick to call yourself a lousy mother. Not everything from Oldboy 2003 transitions over to Oldboy 2013. It is both one of our best strengths and greatest weaknesses, as while rampant emotions can lead us to doing things that we may later regret, without them, we lose a huge chunk of what makes us human in the first place. Did you know you can now filter searches by any combination of ratings? A man chases a woman, he runs onto a football field and grabs the woman's arm, the woman shouts at the man and a nearby young man grabs the man and punches him; the man punches the young man to the ground and then fights the young man's five friends, including smashing one of the young men's heads against a bottle and straddling one of the young man and punching him with such impact that his neck whips backwards (a group of young women beg the man to stop); as the man walks away, we see the bodies of six young men lying on the ground and they all appear unconscious. To get this to happen, Lee Woo-jin had Oh Dae-su's wife murdered and his daughter Mi-do (Kang Hye-jung) hypnotized to ensure that the two would fall for one another once Oh Dae-su was released. Helping our teens deal with mistakes is a part of being a good parent. Along the years, he learns that Donna was brutally murdered and he was accused of the crime and Mia was adopted and raised by a family. Though these changes seem small, they play into where Oldboy stands in Spike Lee's filmography. Related:How Inside Man: Most Wanted Connects To The Spike Lee Original. In Oldboy 2003, Oh Dae-su eats a live octopus after hes released. Anyway, there's apparently a director's cut of this film that is at least 35 minutes longer. Again, the movie makes it unclear if Oh Dae-su actually found the hypnotist or if it is just a way to project his own attempts to block the memory, as the next scene shows her nowhere to be found and instead, he is laying in the snow where Mi-do finds him and confesses his love for him. It should be noted that these films are linked thematically and not narratively. [9] Later in November 2009, it was reported that DreamWorks, Spielberg, and Smith had stepped back from the project. A man watches a television news reporter announce that a woman had been murdered and we see a sheet-covered gurney (a small amount of blood is seen on the sheet) wheeled away; the reporter announces that the woman had a daughter, and we see a small girl being handed to an older woman; the man becomes very upset when the reporter announces that the police believe that he had murdered the woman. A man tells another man that as children and teens that he and his sister had happily engaged in a sexual relationship with their own father. Took me a minute to figure that one out. In fact, the film itself is part of a trilogy of films titled The Vengeance Trilogy that all center around the theme of revenge. Joe neglects his three year-old daughter Mia and is estranged of his ex-wife Donna. Upon meeting Lee Woo-jin for the first time, Oh Dae-su leaves Mi-do vulnerable and shes held captive by Mr. Park and his men. Lee Soo-ah commits suicide because of it. However, Lees film also revealed that the villains father was having sex with his own 16-year old daughter (not the villain having sex with his sister as in Park Chan-wooks film). Park Chan-wook's Oldboy, the original movie, is definitely better than the 2013 Oldboy remake, which is one of the more underwhelming films made by Spike Lee. It is a remake of the 2003 South Korean film of the same name, directed by Park Chan Wook. A one-stop-shop for all things video games. Oldboy | 2013 | R | - 8.9.8 Remake of the 2003 Korean revenge thriller about a man (Josh Brolin) who was kidnapped and held captive in a motel room for twenty years. Its powerful cinema indeed. In Oldboy 2013, Joes ex-wife Donna is raped and murdered. 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