Having said that it was still wrong but I don't acquite it to a minstrel show or it have been in a mock manner and I am glad that they apologised and have learnt from that. If we reflect on our own selves, Im sure a lot of us have done some similar things that could be classified as questionable if we were always in the spotlight as idols too. For the segment, the three followed outfits . asked one user while another tweet read, "Dark skin or brown skin men? Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Im aware people can be incredibly childish when it comes to offensive stuff in kpop, almost like its some game, like, there are actual people who look forward to exos next fuckup as though its not something that deeply upsets people. Others, despite agreeing that Hwasa was at fault, thought the questions were taking it too far. Meanwhile for girl groups it's just full of hate comments even if they did not do as many or as severe problematic things as boy groups. Ive seen a lot of people (and even previously been them sometimes) throwing around the Siwon thing to say hes wildly homophobic, for example, when it turned out to be heavily unreliable and probably false. Everyone, dont think of dirty thoughts!, negative comment about Taos skin being dark, cant be too chubby/fat and must have a nice body, He has darker skin than me, doesnt he?, in general, youre skin looks better if you have a lighter skin tone. Why was that her fault? I recently fell in love with these girls again after I took a break from kpop. And then later on she includes a list of problematic things that her favourite (boy) group has done and it's literally 3x as long. Guess we just have to deal with the immature fans who judge them for small things. Its not good when people exaggerate stuff (like they did with Siwon) but its good to keep discussions going on offensive things in kpop, 3) Thank you for the fanaccounts/links about the Siwon thing (Ill add them to the list), thats the kind of thing I appreciate being told because I am not omniscient and I dont know everything (Also I think I already had one of those on there?). Everyone is allowed to make mistakes and with those mistakes, come the opportunity to correct them. That crosses every sort of line. You don't have to to forgive them for the blackface but I see far too much misinformation being spread and everyone just take as word. But she probably could not have predicted that an #AskHwasa hashtag could have drawn out some of the worst Twitter drags in recent times. Feb 22, 2023. when something is scripted) or it is something they did along time ago and havent done since. Everyone is welcome, fans and non-fans. hitType: 'event', Above all, however, Mamamoo is a power-vocal group and strongly celebrated for it, even winning Favorite Vocal Artist at both the 2018 and 2019 MAMAs. Hope that all made sense! It's really difficult to see the hate towards these girls when I see how hard they had to struggle to climb up the ladder when they came from such a small company but I do believe they'll prevail and work hard to improve themselves as they've always been doing since 2014 . pg.acq.push(function() { This has been a hard decision to make, one Ive been debating with for a good while now, but Ive decided I think its best for me to take a break from this blog. We will not waver; we will not tire; we will not falter, and we will not fail. I love mamamoo their song i miss you is what got me into them as that song made me really sad but their songs hit different and Moonbyul is such a tomboy and i love her, I love how Moonbyul dominates this poll lmao, Moonbyul isnt even my bias anymore but I cant switch my vote so yep go dominate girl. When I say this, the person might think, Look whos talking, but I would reply, Im a boy and youre a girl, To this, both Kim Shin Young and announcer Gu Eun Young retorted, Why does gender matter in this situation? And it manifested almost solely around Hwasa who since the very beginning has received the bulk of the hate. People always said they do so much CA and I tried to find some examples but the only one that again seemed to be twisted was them appropriating Indian culture during AZE GAG but that was misconstrued as it was about Buddhism not Hindu culture even the line is the song is about Buddhism and one of the members is Buddhist so I don't have a massive issue with it. Honestly, I would want the person that I love to be more pretty or more handsome., Culturally appropriated a Native American headdress. So i don't usually dig into controversies but I couldn't help bumping into a few recently regarding Mamamoo. I did do that on my exo masterpost, but I also spent a lot more time and thought on that post as well. Solar | Moonbyul | Wheein | Hwasa (Purple Backs) Solar | Moonbyul | Wheein | Hwasa (Mint Backs) CD version comes with 3 photocards. } Fans welcome to spam photos, videos, gifs, to talk about Mamamoo, Solar, Moonbyul, Wheein, Hwasa updates, music, content or anything. I would think that all of their positives outweigh their negatives so I'm going to continue to be a fan of them and their musicand not care about netizen/fan hate against them. And that isnt even getting into the worst of it. hitType: 'event', document.querySelector("#ads").addEventListener('click',function(){ Of course I was disappointed in some of the things they've done and said, but we all make mistakes and they've acknowledged them and apologized. I'm not dismissing them or overlooking them, but I know that there was no ill intent in what they did and that they're doing their best. They received their first music show win in 2016 with Youre The Best and have since gone on to win dozens more, ending 2019 with a combined total of 41 music show wins, making them one of the most highest winning girl groups in history. The Radish Farm (Mamamoo Thread) This is going to be safe space for everyone who wants to talk about Mamamoo. 21 Jan 2023, 03:11 AM . In the way that we see them care for each other and their fans concerns, I really dont see how they could MEAN to hurt anyones feelings with how they might act at times. I recently saw their variety show where they traveled to Busan and talked a bit about the past and Moonbyul said something that really squeezed my heart (paraphrasing): "We're human. Please think before you write these messages. Joined: May 2022. Ive seen multiple times that idols should know better because they have internet access and should know why the n word is bad or why blackface is bad. There are multiple reasons but a large one being Im just not educated enough. (Photo : Mr. Kim) Apink Chorong was a school bully, New recordings and evidence Revealed [+1,956, -53] As expected, the entertainment industry is filled with kids with such dirty personalities~~~~~. Goodbye! }); They debuted on June 19, 2014 with the mini album Hello . ", #AskHwasa biggie or tupac? }); Kim Yong-sun (Korean: , born February 21, 1991), better known by the stage name Solar (Korean: ), is a South Korean singer, songwriter and actress signed under RBW.She is the leader and main vocalist of girl group Mamamoo and its sub-unit Mamamoo+. Personally, I come from a Chinese household with really racist, sexist, misogynistic, and homophobic beliefs. While MBC later clarified that the outfit was meant to be a glamorized version of the sauna outfits worn by South Koreans, particularly a style that Hwasa herself has worn before, many thought the outfit was far more similar to an African one than a Korean sauna look. Thank you very much for the information!! I dont think people should defend what others do/say, regardless of how long ago it was, but I do think people should look at stuff in context and use a degree of common sense. offensive/misogynistic comments to his Cyworld account, Kai was in charge of skin color in the group, my noona is a little on the tanned side, no wonder why you guys acted like you were so close with each other, I thought the lights were not entering over there, said that he has Kai saved as Blackie in his phone contacts, in a pre-debut video with a hard -er at the end, how can you say something that doesnt even make sense?, Chanyeol asked Kai if he wanted to lighten his skin, Dont misunderstand us. Ive heard Moomoos are known as fairly passive, but its also why they are known as some of the most accepting and even better behaved fans. Im not trying to run away from anything, if you have issues with any of the things I say or do (because I am privileged in certain aspects) please dont feel afraid to bring them up! Its so sad because I love them and hope they grow more internationally. (especially since hes never repeated anything like that.). | A Japanese Man Reacts to Duolingo Let's ask Shogo | Your. When you choose to spend that privilege constantly mocking and harassing people online, well, karma's going to come back to you, in some form or another. Mamamoo's "problematic" past (still robot voice, sorry sis) 325,340 views Sep 11, 2018 13K Dislike Share Chaennie Lisoo 38.1K subscribers In this video I take a look at one opinion in. 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I can understand how a youtube translating team could mess up their translation, Ive seen it happen before, but as a person who doesnt know Korean I have to go off what Korean-speaking people tell me. Im honestly not trying to tell people that everybody on that list is a problematic asshole, as Ive said before, Heechul is one of my ultimate biases and I dont think hes a problematic asshole. It hurts my heart to see people bash them like that, it really does. I feel like this sounds insincere but its not, I promise, I wish I had gone about it very differently. },false) Group. While it is common for artists to tease their comebacks for up to a month, the time they spend on promoting the new music in conventional ways such as music shows and variety show appearances has decreased by . If it had just been misheard or a mistranslation, why would they censor it? }); } My anxiety and paranoia are bad enough as it is but they shoot up every time I post on here, leaving me feeling sick when I cant check my inbox (or when I have lots of messages) and paranoid that everybody hates me/this blog. The ring around her mouth: Now a ring around someones mouth was something drawn back in the days of blackface to emphasize big lips. },false) hey uh, not a lot of people are anyway (thankfully), but Id really appreciate it if people could stop reblogging the super junior post I made, thatd be fab ty. Contents 1 History 1.1 Pre-debut 1.2 2014: Debut with Hello, and Piano Man 1.3 2015: Pink Funky 1.4 2016: Melting, MOOSICAL and Memory 1.5 2017: MOOSICAL Curtain Call and Purple I also hear about a clown outfit she wore in one of their videos that people again try to say was blackface but how when she's naturally tan and didn't look any different than normal so I was like huh. Again I apologise for any of the harm I have caused with this blog, it was definitely unintentional, but thats no excuse. They removed the video from the ending of their concert shows and Mamamoo also personally apologized at their following concert to anyone who could have been affected by their previous actions. Um yeah they are just that close that they make fun of each other. ", The link includes the statements released on the group's behalf, most notably, their own apologies for their use of blackface which was released within four hours of the video going out. You must understand that Asians are very very different from non asians in terms of being conservative, preferring lighter skin and saying that theh are not gay. And yes I did make an exo masterpost, heres a link. It's harder to get exposed to these issues that we know about under their circumstances, but once Mamamoo comes across them and understand, they'll learn from it. Because of mistakes that they've made out of ignorance, mistakes that they've apologized for. In this video, they wore blackface. eventAction: 'load' I'm gonna keep following them and follow my own judgement. }); #AskHwasa. Im going to leave this blog up so people can still refer to some of the posts and look through the tags. I heard that this picture would drive people with OCD crazy.. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), : ) : ) Wow! While Mamamoo being popular with the public is widely known, many are unaware of just how many actors, idols, and senior producers they have won over with their authentic shows and cheery personalities. hitType: 'event', Mamamoo is not the most problematic group ever I'm a fairly new Mamamoo fan and I was hearing a lot about them being super problematic towards black people (so being black) I decided to some research to find out. A large section of the hate she receives is linked to the idol rarely conforming to what is typically expected of women in K-pop, particularly ones in girl groups. I included links to everything that was on the list (some of which had been deleted - another thing I messed up on big time) and with certain things, I did include a bit of extra information (e.g. },false) Yes, I should have checked the links. Maybe you are just too sensitive?? Lose some weight, why cant you take care of yourself. It also means I respond to criticism poorly. You dont owe them anything in the lines of forgiveness, especially if you were one of the people they personally hurt with their past actions. [3] Another thing referenced against Hwasa is the occasion she dressed up as a clown. The thing that happened next is the thing often referenced the most when discussing Mamamoos past, Hwasa singing the n-word. Moomoos are also quite reserved and a bit more mature so whenever Mamamoo is criticized, you have a small group of people rationally trying to defend them. Firstly, Im fairly sure I missed stuff, but also, a lot of it is somewhat interpretational. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), Theres no point calling people too sensitive, especially when the stuff pointed out causes many problems, for fans and also the members themselves (for example, Kai has shown numerous times that he is upset by/fed up with the comments on his skin). Mamamoo themselves wrote: We were extremely ignorant of blackface and did not understand the implications of our actions. Fandom Name - Moomoo Sub-Unit - Mamamoo+ Japanese Website Twitter Japanese Twitter Instagram YouTube Japanese YouTube Fan Cafe Tiktok I dont know how familiar you are with vixx, but N is constantly put down by hisfriends about his appearance (specifically his skin color) and one of the things Kangin criticised him for was his self confidence, which honestly, was really, really rude and definitely uncalled for. Wore a headscarf in a similar way to a hijab in, When a male fan said Saranghae (I love you) to him, he responded by going, Made the picture of Yesung in blackface his, Def Conn was talking about a trade he did with an African American regarding some Micheal Jordan shoes in which Kyuhyun retorted, Said that Kais defining feature was that his, Then proceeded to say Taos face color is dark because its green at 23:11 of the same, Assigned gummy bears to Exo-K members and, In the same interview, Kai sort of called him out on his colorism/shadism and Chanyeol said , Used a caricature app to make the Exo members and created, When Xiumin chose him as first place after being asked which exo member hed date if he were a girl, he saidIt feels pretty good to be in first place, but it is first place from the viewpoint of a male but then said a few seconds laterThis first place feels a little its a good thing! Goodnight. Korean girl group Mamamoo apologized Saturday after a video clip aired at their concert that featured the quartet in blackface. Their interactions with their fans and staff members are so sweet and genuine, and they do their best to be inclusive of everyone (like Wheein taking her time to speak to a deaf fan and doing some sign language, Hwasa going on the floor to sign a fan's cast---the list goes on). My mom would like to know #AskHwasa, is mama africa a good name for you? As Ive said before, I dont know everything, and I try to provide sources for what I post, but Im a bit cynical and I can sometimes put too much trust into what other people say, so please, please, please call me out if you notice me spreading misinformation (it will always be appreciated) and I will update the masterpost. but this stuff isnt discussed when it comes to suju - people take anything and make it problematic for members who havent done things like kangin, shindong, leeteuk, and yesung, and then just throw it around to defend their favorites. They make a difference. They are known and respected by the general public, for their powerful vocals and performances, and can only go up in relevance from here. #1. The next big issue made public came when Solar dressed up as a Korean beggar from Train to Busan (2016) for their next ending concert video. I do understand that some things which look like reaches to other people arent always reaches though. Her confidence has grown through the years, due in part to her role models such as Beyonce and Rihanna, with Hwasa even saying in a now viral video Soon, I found myself promising this: If I dont fit into this generations standard of beauty, then I will have to become a different standard but prejudice based off looks has always been the sore button topic for her. I didnt put in a lack of effort because its Super Junior though, if I had been making a BigBang masterpost instead, that would have been the one with little effort put into it. Mamamoo - Solar. I know Ive answered questions on things like racism, colorism, cultural appropriation, etc. I hope everybody has a good day/night. okay so Ive seen quite a few people get mad about the master post I made about super junior (some people have linked me to what others have said, other posts Ive seen floating around) and there is a lot of valid criticism being said, and some other stuff which seems to just be a misunderstanding. One tweet asked, "What we feeling today -er or -a? Like who is the next ethnicity youre going to offend? The following 32 users Like TheSexyTwiMan's post: yeah, suju has done problematic stuff and i agree, we shouldnt defend it or excuse it, its good to have that kind of discussion. Yet she's okay with that. gads_event = event; You are entitled to your own opinion, and if what Mamamoo has done is considered too ignorant or rude for you to support them anymore, that is 100% in your right to not excuse them for it. pg.acq.push(function() { Koreaboo, a digital media company, also reached out to the group because of the incident, and attempted to explain to them exactly why their video was so hurtful. I didnt mean for this to spiral into an argument at all and I didnt post the post with malicious intent, though I know the intent doesnt matter all that much and that I did make mistakes. ga('ads.send', { We will be taking time to understand more about our international fans to ensure this never happens again. if henry said that the idea of his band mates being gay/transworried him, thats homophobic and transphobic. They're open-minded and extremely kind people. They expect idols to be the wokest people out there because theyre celebrities when in reality theyre just the product of their colorist society. Things not included arent included because they DIDNT happen, stop believing lies told by edgy K-pop stans w/o any receipts. She was singing song lyrics from Melon (a Spotify-type South Korean streaming website), lyrics that had the n-word in them. ga('ads.send', { Not speaking Korean and being confused about whats true and what isnt? 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