Anonymous - fortunately you don't have what it takes to be an Amway Ambot so hope you're not losing too much money while you figure that out. Those who earn an invitation will participate in fabulous, once-in-a-lifetime activities, new product offerings, and networking opportunities. Might be tough to keep a straight face around your friend, but trust me on this, they'll leave you alone after you share that's your dream you're following!Good luck! I hope you are doing that now. I've been recently talked to by my friend about this "be your own boss" type of thing. I can conclude that you either are lying, or you simply built a poor organization. But at the ASCO meetings the downline are praised and lovebombed for simply buying more that month, even if they just shoved the crap in a closet.And if recruitment is the goal and not selling the products to the general public, then Amway is merely a pyramid scheme and with all pyramids only the 1% at the top make money, at the expense of the 99% where they get it from. You saved my life and my future. Its about the only thing taught at Scamway meetings. Wait till the assholes in his Amway upline find out he was hanging here instead of prospecting unless he's so fucked in the head he thinks this blog is a good place to find prospects! Your comment got caught in the spam filter. urgent..i want my ex lover back he is leavingme not calling or texting, he is not even responding to meanymore. The point of this blog is to show that Amway is NOT a solution, it's a money-losing cult that MAKES problems for people, not solve them. She loves and worships her Amway cult leaders more than you so they'll probably convince her the right thing to do is end the relationship. The same way that none of the money my down line spend goes to me. I expose the lies that our upline told and what happens at Amway meetings and functions. Hell Ive never even had a call from a bill collector. I have an excellent credit rating but those fucking Amway assholes that read my blog accuse me of being broke. 2nd Anonymous - yeah what the fuck was that gibberish? Check:http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/amway-quixtar-rich-devos-jay-van-andel/ada-michigan-49301/amway-quixtar-rich-devos-jay-van-andel-ada-michigan-robin-hoods-in-reverse-ada-mi-88617. Get on with your lives. Earnings depend on many factors, including: customer base, business experience, effort, dedication, and quality and performance of an IBOs sales team. How can you say 150 k is a nice income. My emerald makes twice what you made as a diamond. We are a training system on how to build the amway business to a truly significant level. Not what those hyped up ambots pretend the income is gazillions of dollars rolling in every month. I got in because a friend of mine was landscaping an Amway Emrald's house in my area. Products are wonderful with high quality. heard all the "Motivational speeches". An Ambot will never come back to clarify their "math". They flog overpriced shitty products to Ambots who are bullied by the upline to keep buying. Someone is yanking your chain. Once Ambots are brainwashed they don't care about their friends or family anymore except for how much money then can make off them.So your friend said to you - I know a really sharp businessman who has some great ideas. Thats a no brainer. There may be lies that you can work for a few years and retire. I'm guessing your involvement in this "opportunity" has been no longer than 2 years. Then there were the books, all of which were priced at what they'd cost in a bookshop. Or any other night. I get from the blog description that you are married to an Amway IBO,the question is are you still married to him despite the fact you hate what he is doing that much , I read your blogs and i cant seem to understand why are you hating that Amway cooperation that much , did they like rip you off and didn't give you what you paid for or was your husband so busy in it and did not give you much time , please elaborate more . There's a lot of money lost and lives destroyed.Those motivational books and tapes you mentioned? 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Restaurants are Scams! Have you ever taken a job anywhere else where your boss wanted you to fail? The secret to success in Amway is you have to be the most obnoxious fucking asshole around. Indeed they do get speaking fees. Um, not there yet. a strategy ? Otherwise take your agenda somewhere else. this bussiness(amway) is god gifted to our family & our nation.only this bussiness to fulfil our dream and helps to other people to achieve their goal and fulfil their dream. Everything looks good on paper doesn't it but the reality of putting the Amway plan into action is pretty much impossible. And why must they only do amway and sit at home on their asses?American sport stars have the same lifestyle as diamonds.. earn a fortune for a few years and then they get too old at 35. They do sell a lot of seminars and CDs though! In addition, 50 percent of the energy powering Amway's world headquarters in Ada, Michigan, is wind-generated. Libby, Tyler & Debbie, Diamond, United States, InterNET. Your a little hater and your heart is pure evil. We talk about the meetings, rallies, and functions we attended and then you show up here like a dumb fuck and say I don't know if you've ever heard of WWDB. Sick! This is why the main "consumers" of Amway products are the "recruits". Just let go of whatever made you write this post and you will be better off down the road. Theyd have to be living on credit to bullshit ambots into what is a Diamond lifestyle. gave me all sorts of shit about it for months on end, how I was a loser and wouldn't amount to crap because I have no dreams and no initiative. We suspect you're a troublemaking Amway asshole.10. That rule of course only applies to Ambots. That did happen in our upline and it affected our business and drive to even actively pursue it. Or tickets to hear a cult leader speak. I keep getting fucking Amway assholes showing up here and leaving comments that Im broke even though Im very careful with my money. Amway is very different. The only way to make money in Amway is selling tools like that book. look at any person with any significant success and you'll always here stories of people that Todd then to quit, but the common denominator with all successful people they ignored them and kept going. i.e. It's a no-brainer . Financing available . I join this buisness 1 month ago. Amway is not a business, its having so much meaning for those peoples who want to create a Legacy in Life and want to live quality life with changing others lives positively in right direction. The meeting was held in his garage, white board in the front, markers and circles, 6 people etc etc. (The list on Amway Wiki is very incomplete, David.) Thats not enough money! Its really sad that a manufacturer of good products is quite happy to see its reputation get flushed down the sewer. Anonymous - seeing as how this blog is devoted mostly to making the Amway upline look like a bunch of fucking assholes, your opinion might differ. I'm sure they've been texting you frequently since you said good bye with all kinds of Amway slogans about how they're fired up after meeting you and they can tell you're a sharp guy and you're going to go really big in this business, etc. If your wife is an artist you'd think she could switch over to sell her wares on Etsy. Youre the liar you broke loser. We don't just ride on hope. I've been researching, blogging and commenting on Amway and Multilevel Marketing for more than a decade. Ah well, at least, she has proper spelling. Thank you for stopping by and setting us straight. I leave the explanations of why Amway is a poor business opportunity or the tool scam to other bloggers. They will twist scripture and take it out of context to suit their agenda. If you continue to see this error, please contact Customer Service 800-253-6500. Likewise some of the Amway leaders have gone bankrupt and houses into foreclosure. The rich successful restaurant owners pay their waiters crap, and hire illegals, at substandard wages, to clean up at night. MLM I general is a malignant metastatic cancer on peoples' lives. They're not who you are. Bad evil people like those in Amway the Cult of Greed go around treating people badly and then justify themselves as being Christians. This blog is about cursing out the fucking assholes in my Amway upline and getting the word out about the lies and scams that Amway assholes use. Until the motivational tool scam is dealt with, Amway will not live up to its promise. It is a complete fraud. A $10 bonus check means nothing if they paid out several hundred to get it. Please check your Minimum Browser Requirements. I get too many nosy ambots searching for this. At every Amway meeting the Ambots are brainwashed to believe that everyone who isn't in Amway and that would be the majority of the world, is broke. I really just stumbled upon this blog but I took time out of my day to make a post. Ask your dad's friend to show you the ownership papers and his registration.If he's in Amway, he'll probably give you a lot of double-talk, and then pretend he didn't hear your questions. Gets checked occasionally. It takes a special kind of person to be able to deal with an IBO for a spouse because any form of argument against their god will be ruthlessly destroyed. LOL! A business sells to someone else. The Amway cult takes nice family men and turns them into sneering, evil Amway demons.And even though the main reason for this blog is to make fun of people in Amway and curse out the assholes in our Amway upline, its therapeutic. ft. $725,000. Posting bullshit Amway propaganda. Depends how long she's been inside the cult. What if staying where I am WILL fulfill my dreams? first there are taxes, and the expenses of running such a business, so that $150 K gets whittled down to 100 PDQ. One reasn why the products are so expensive, is because there was a confrontation between the Devos/van Andels and the bigwig distributirs making money off the tools, and the latter threatened to leave and take their organizations with them, so the company had to accept that, and they had to raise their prices to offset it. I am really afraid the the brainwashing will lead to us splitting up. You are not a good downline are you?Secondly instead of running your mouth uncontrollably why don't you rebut the issues raised by Anna or offer resounding evidence to the contrary? Live from an Amway meeting! Let me ask 1400 out of how many??? There is a link to a free ebook called Merchants of Deception. Hello frank, How do I politely decline and cancel on him and my friend? Holy fuck are you ever a bad little Ambot! Now why don't you go find somewhere else on the Internet where you can spout off your canned Amspeak bullshit propaganda because around here we've heard all that shit before. Surely you can find a business with a better success rate than that. The only ones who retire are the people who own Amway and their heirs. I've fallen in love with a woman in Amway. Our sack of shit Platinum got fired from Amway a few years ago and took most of the downline with him. I join this buisness 1 month ago. And if you only spent a grand in 3 years in Amway you weren't really doing Amway, probably just helping out someone with pity purchases. By the way 'anonymous from Nov 11' no money i spend goes to my upline. So says you on a post with over 100 comments. Your post highlights the problems with doing maths based on poor knowledge or false assumptions. I'll bet twice as many are questioning their faith after being involved with some of the unsavory elements in the Sales organizations. Get information from legitimate sourcesOr be negative and work for 40 years give your life and youth to some corporate pyramid where only the people at the top reap the big bucks and you do all the workListen you don't have to do network marketing to make your dreams come true that so TRUE but staying where you are is definitely NOT the answer. This is just sad ambitious or not. They try one company, an when that doesn't work, it's on to the next. Thats something i'll never be able to say. Thanks! THAT is why they are so hot on recruiting, recruiting, recruiting. Here's what I wrote at the time in my journal: It took almost 2.5 hours to get there but I made it finally. So by Amway Ambot logic Donald Trump, the Queen of England, Bill Gates, Oprah, Warren Buffett, and Richard Branson are all broke.And what's with those ambots that show up here bragging about how much money Amway made in sales last year. In fact. This product item already exists in the list. It makes Amway Ambots very angry that its so high on the search engines when they're probably looking to find out how much an Amway Diamond makes. That's why this blog exists to talk about what you evil motherfucking Amway demons are really like. So you may tout them as "investing" in their business, but with a real investment there has to be an eventual return. Don't worry just curious I won't be back to respond. There are names on the List of Diamonds on Amway Wiki that I dont recognize. Let's also assume he had some living expenses during that time. I don't remember any Diamonds working outside jobs but they sure had to hustle their asses working the Amway scam and bullying their downline to buy more buy more! These are the guys with the lavish lifestyles that few will ever achieve. Believe it or notsome people do enjoy their careers. Only the most aggressive liars and scammers make money. I hope you're happy with the way you've represented your employer. You got it Sprigsleg. I don't understand why getting new people to join is so much more important than just selling products. Trump is really good at making money for himself so, he started his own MLM and placed himself at the top. People do not read and comment on blogs that poke fun at things they like. For the calendar year 2021, the average income from Amway for all U.S. registered IBOs at the Founders Platinum level and below was $766 before expenses. As reported on this site several weeks ago, UK & ROI Amway Diamonds affiliated with IBS, Jerry & Mandy Scriven, Pat & Greta Gregory, and Dave Butler had not been offered renewed contracts with the "new" Amway.Amway itself confirmed this with a posting on the Amway media blog entitled IBS Unplugged.. Jerry and Mandy Scriven have now responded with a well written and well supported letter on . The list on AmwayWiki is dynamically generated by articles on AmwayWiki, so if you know of more simply create a new article for the Diamond, with category Diamond, and theyll appear in the list. Then why show up here and do it? I showed up an hour late and I was shocked to find out that my friend sucked me into an Amway meeting like a blind vortex. This article is insanely biased. One more Amway/Quixtar Story. Anonymous - that's what Amway is all about. I once heard a completely brainwashed over the top Ambot claim "If Jesus were here today, he'd be selling Amway!" Your a 100 percent real bitch go to hell and rott. Now, the company has become the No. I'm amazed the Amway media machine isn't blowing this out their asses that this immigrant made it big in Amway and has bought millions of dollars worth of businesses, etc etc. Depends where they are on the get a bigger piece of pie plan. I said "well, he does have 12 people already set up for his downline". 1966 A New Name: The ADA That's what the people who want everyone to think they're rich drive. They built Amway on the belief that business ownership improves lives through personal achievement and the opportunity to earn income. Otherwise no one would be making money because nobody who's not an Ambot wants to buy Amway product. You can find stories online of people spending $192,000 to "make" $30,000 (shit, we think there are actual cults with a higher rate of return). I was in Amway back in 96 to 99. Can't say Amway and honest in the same sentence can you without laughing! Where to start? Hilarious.You're still angry about failing in Amway? You kind find better stuff free at the library or online. An example is you we hate you cause your a hater and you are not passionate or have hope you dont have a life and you coulf go to hell and rott their. Pay income tax say 25 k or more. Ha ha!!!! Obviously this is a business. What would be nice to know is, who are they? Neither are Emeralds, Platinums or any IBO who LOVES Amway and LOVES their upline. MLM: There ain't no light at the end of the tunnel! Not just buy them, but subscribe monthly for new tapes every month. LOL!!!! I can say that I sell pencils on the corner and made 12 million doing it last year. This site is my personal opinions about the Amway company. That's good news for the owners of Amway but how does that affect their lowly paid commissioned salespeople.Ambots also show up here claiming that Amway has made more millionaires than Microsoft or Google of wherever but so far no one's shown up with a list of the millionaires for comparison. Network21? Lets not help them find this shit.5. One thing I noticed, at least in one of the organizations, is that almost all the newer diamonds were also already independently wealthy. Stop being so angry and focus more of your time on watching T.V and drinking before you have to go to sleep to make it to WORK tomorrow. We are worth 200% more than we think we are! Its more likely that everyone in the Amway meeting is broke. Woo hoo! They're losers who are going to be dead or broke by the time they're 65. The only question is how much emotional and financial damage will Scamway cause before he quits. I have a list of every North American Diamond that has appeared in the Amagram since 1964. There's an article written by a psychologist that we sometimes reference a link to and he got conned into an Amway meeting and he said people's dreams are usually nothing out of the ordinary - they want to buy a house, go on a nice vacation, etc. John and Jennie Belle Crowe are Amway legends, having been in the business almost fifty years now. & ]], [[ & | & ]], [[ & | & ]], [[ & | & ]], [[ & | & ]], [[ & | & ]], [[ & | & ]], [[ & | & ]], [[ & | & ]], [[ & | & ]], [[ & | & ]], [[ & | & ]], [[ & | & ]], [[ & | & ]], [[ & | & ]]. And does he owe me $50000? . But when the diamond falls out of qualification fees dry up. Its only the few legend high pins who managed to keep the bulk of tools money among themselves who make big money. Amway does piss all when you complain to them about the upline or the various cult sects. Who should we believe? How am I gonna convince my friend that Amway is evil? The new IBO will receive an email with a link to complete the process, Share referral links to your favorite products and receive credit for all of your customer sales. When a Diamond dies, he can look back on his life and say, "Ive helped thousands of people make extra money and accomplish their goals though free enterprise and universal success principles and generated economy for this country" When Anna Banana dies, she will say.. "I was a cunt that liked to blog that never helped anyone. of more than 1400 Amway Diamonds and above. And that would mean an even bigger loss than a billion next year for Amway. January 6, 2012: Updated information on Carole Holiday here. Its called facts and people who ignore them are called ignorant. @AnonymousJuly 9, 2013 at 10:40 AMFirst you have established that you are a ridiculous, ignorant hypocrite, not duplicating your upline nor following their instructions that you should not visit so called "negative" websites. 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